Jesus The Carpenter and His Brothers

[Mr. M]

Jude 1 Yehudah, a servant of Yeshua the Messiah, and brother of Ya`akov,

to those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and kept for Yeshua the Messiah:

In the introduction of his epistle, Jude identifies himself as the brother of James, from whom 

we also have an epistle. They are two of four sons of Joseph and Mary, half brothers of Yeshua.

Mark 6:1 Then He went out from there and came to His own country, and His disciples followed Him.

2 And when the Sabbath had come, He began to teach in the synagogue. And many hearing

were astonished, saying where did this Man get these things?

And what wisdom is this which is given to Him, that such mighty works are performed by His hands!

3 Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon?

And aren't His sisters here with us? So they were offended at Him.

Notice that in Mark's Gospel, Jesus is referred to as "the carpenter". By comparison in Matthew we find:

Matthew 13:55 Is this not the carpenter’s son? Isn't His mother called Mary?

And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas? 

Now a divisive person may point this out as a discrepancy, but this is actually a wonderful truth.

Because Joseph had received divine revelation as to the significance of the Lord's conception 

and birth, he clearly raised Him as his firstborn son. This shows that the Lord grew up conventionally,

as part of a family, serving His father, and plying his trade in the workshop. He did not spend time

as a wanderer or hermit, until His time came, He lived the life of a firstborn son. So why the call

at age 30? This pertains to His future role as the High Priest of our profession. He was born under

Law, and always fulfilled the requirements thereof, though He would eventually bring about 

wonderful changes to the significance of the priesthood.

Numbers 4:

46 All who were numbered of the Levites, whom Moses, Aaron, and the leaders of Israel numbered,

by their families and by their fathers’ houses, 

47 from thirty years old and above, even to fifty years old, everyone who came to do the work of service

and the work of bearing burdens in the tabernacle of meeting— 

48 those who were numbered were eight thousand five hundred and eighty.

Priests were called to service at the age of 30. Yeshua was the first from the tribe of Judah.

Thus began the change to the priesthood.

Hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses

spoke nothing concerning priesthood.

If anyone would like to bring in "the order of Melchizedek", that would be appropriate,

I just didn't want to make the OP too "top heavy" from the start.

 

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[Mr. M]

Proverbs 18:24 A man that has friends must shew himself friendly:

and there is a friend that sticks closer than a brother.

[JimmyB]

The Bible says that Jesus had brothers.  It doesn't say anywhere that He had half-brothers.  That is distorting Scripture to justify a false belief.

[Jayne]

1 hour ago, JimmyB said:

The Bible says that Jesus had brothers.  It doesn't say anywhere that He had half-brothers.  That is distorting Scripture to justify a false belief.

They are only half-brothers in the sense that they all had the same mother [Mary], but different fathers [Jesus - the Holy Spirit] and [the four brothers - Joseph].  But they were raised as 100% brothers.  

[JimmyB]

16 minutes ago, Jayne said:

They are only half-brothers in the sense that they all had the same mother [Mary], but different fathers [Jesus - the Holy Spirit] and [the four brothers - Joseph].  But they were raised as 100% brothers.  

The man who raised Jesus was Joseph, who was considered to be his father.  Luke 4:22, "All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”

[Retrobyter]

1 hour ago, JimmyB said:

The Bible says that Jesus had brothers.  It doesn't say anywhere that He had half-brothers.  That is distorting Scripture to justify a false belief.

Shalom, JimmyB.

A brother is a brother. But, a brother of the same mother with a different father is called a half-brother, by some. Apparently, you might be confused by this, but Yeeshuwa`s father was NOT Yosef the carpenter. It was YHWH 'Elohiym 'AVinow! YHWH God His Father!

Matthew records the words of Gabriel to Yosef ("Joseph"):

Matthew 1:18-25 (KJV)

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused (promised to; engaged) to Joseph, BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily (to "divorce" her quietly; to call off the wedding quietly). 20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying,

"Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name 'JESUS': for 'he shall save' his people from their sins."

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 

23 "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name 'Emmanuel'," which being interpreted is, "God with us."

24 Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name "JESUS."

On the other hand, Yosef ("Joseph") was a good father to Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus") and taught Him the trade of carpentry! Essentially, because Yosef ACCEPTED Yeeshuwa` AS his own, he ADOPTED Yeeshuwa` and He became his heir!

Miryam ("Mary"), His mother, also was fore-warned about this happening, and she accepted the role and its consequences:

Luke 1:26-38 (KJV)

26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 28 And the angel came in unto her, and said,

"Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women! (You are the most blessed of women!)"

29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be. 30 And the angel said unto her,

"Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found FAVOUR with God! 31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name 'JESUS.' 32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end!"

34 Then said Mary unto the angel,

"How shall this be, seeing I know not (I have not had sexual relations with) a man?"

35 And the angel answered and said unto her,

"The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. 36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren. 37 For with God nothing shall be impossible!"

38 And Mary said,

"Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word."

And the angel departed from her.

Now, it's simple logic. Miryam ("Mary") didn't have intimate relations with Yosef ("Joseph") when she became pregnant with Yeeshuwa` ("Jesus"). (In fact, Yosef thought she had cheated on him, and he was about to break off the engagement)! Yosef didn't have sexual relations with her until after she gave birth to Yeeshuwa`, and then he did after His birth. So, the other children who were younger than Yeeshuwa` (since He was her first child) were half-siblings to Yeeshuwa`. They had the same mother, Miryam, but they had a different father, Yosef!

[Retrobyter]

14 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

The man who raised Jesus was Joseph, who was considered to be his father.  Luke 4:22, "All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”

Shalom, JimmyB.

Sure! But, remember, that Yosef (Joseph) NEVER put away Miryam (Mary), and he made her his wife! He accepted Yeeshuwa` (Jesus) as his own son; so, those in his community knew no different! They would ASSUME that they "couldn't wait" for the wedding ceremony, and therefore, Yeeshuwa` was his own son, born too soon after they were married!

But, we, through the Evangelists Matthew and Luke, are given the REAL story behind the story! GOD had caused a "virgin to conceive and give birth to a son!" So, GOD HIMSELF was the true Father of Yeeshuwa`! And, it wasn't done as Mormons believe, either! It was an act of CREATION! He didn't do it through cloning, for a created being with two X chromosomes, XX, can only give birth to another created being with two X chromosomes! GOD HIMSELF added the Y chromosome to make the MALE, XY, named "Yeeshuwa`" ("Jesus"), the "Son of God!"

That's why they were so amazed, by the way! "What does a CARPENTER'S APPRENTICE know about the Bible and God's grace?!"

[Jayne]

45 minutes ago, JimmyB said:

The man who raised Jesus was Joseph, who was considered to be his father.  Luke 4:22, "All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”

Yes, Joseph was believed to be and accepted as Jesus' father.  I call Jesus and his brothers - brothers.

But they did not have the same biological father.

It's enough for me that the Bible uses the word, "brothers".  It's also enough for me when some wish to remind everyone that Jesus had a different father.

 

[FJK]

5 hours ago, JimmyB said:

The Bible says that Jesus had brothers.  It doesn't say anywhere that He had half-brothers.  That is distorting Scripture to justify a false belief.

Is that saying Jesus and his brothers had the same father, or am I misunderstanding you?

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, FJK said:

Is that saying Jesus and his brothers had the same father, or am I misunderstanding you?

It clearly said that Jesus had brothers.  There is no mention of half-brothers.  

 

Luke 4:21-22, "Then he began to say to them, “Today this scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.” All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his mouth. They said, “Is this not Joseph’s son?”  Clearly the people who knew Him regarded Him as Joseph's son.

There are several places where His siblings are referred to as His brothers and sisters, so I assume that what the Bible says is true.