Split - Dr. Gene Scott

[Mongo]

They say he's still alive? Have they read the news?

They don't claim he is alive, they insinuate it. They don't verify or announce his death either.

I wonder if the Mod can spit this topic out?

[Pipit]

Well.. it seems he is alive and well on the website... I guess some people can't accept that their master is dead...

He was the guy who said 'Real salvation costs money,' and something to the effect 'if you don't tithe you will slide to hell' right?

[Ovedya]

They say he's still alive? Have they read the news?

They don't claim he is alive, they insinuate it. They don't verify or announce his death either.

I wonder if the Mod can spit this topic out?

Good idea.

[Ovedya]

Well.. it seems he is alive and well on the website... I guess some people can't accept that their master is dead...

He was the guy who said 'Real salvation costs money,' and something to the effect 'if you don't tithe you will slide to hell' right?

I don't know. It's been so long since I've heard him. I do know that the whole cigar/scotch/cursing thing got a lot of disaproval though.

[the_raven_1313]

Is this the guy you are talking about. http://www.drgenescott.com/home.htm

I came accross him about 4 months ago. I basically put him him in the same catagory as (Benny Hinn, Billy Graham, Robert Schuller, Creflo Dollar and Kennith Copeland). That catagory is, if they come on I change the channel.

[Mongo]

Thanks bud...

Onward!

So yes, to Pipit - This guy believes and states that real salvation costs money. He seemed to have lost some wait in his last years.

Comments by, or about, Gene Scott:

"And I have these attorneys who wanna reach me and they didn't wanna go through the channels, and they wanna call. The oldest trick in the world is call and leave a message, 'Call me back.' I don't call anybody back! There ain't nobody in this world that ever gets a call back from me! You don't call me and leave your God**** number and put the onus on me to run you down when you want to talk to me! You want to talk to me, you sit your little old fanny on a chair and you keep dialing till somebody on my staff tells you I got the message or tells you to go to hell!"

(Dr. Gene Scott, Audio clip "Bible Answer Man Show" Hank Hanegraaff, October 11, 2004)

"Unlike other televangelists, Scott's sermons did not condemn homosexuality, abortion or other hot-topic sexual issues. He argued they were a personal choice. Scott's own lifestyle included a chauffeured limousine. He also claimed to own 300 horses." (Associated Press February 22, 2005)

"But he also spoke on current events, sometimes lacing his sermons with profanity." (The Associated Press, February 22, 2005)

"During the last few years, Scott has become more and more outrageous and offensive, His language is crude, abusive and profane, clearly violating God's standards for Christians." (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

"Nuke 'em in the name of Jesus!" Scott ranted during the Gulf War, boasting that he was the only minister urging President Bush to bomb Iraq. (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

"At times Scott would stare into a live television camera until a fund-raising goal was met. "Get on the telephone!" He ordered his viewers. For those who didn't send money, Scott suggested: "Vomit on yourself with your head up in the air." ("Flamboyant TV pastor Gene Scott dies at 75," Houston Chronicle, February 24, 2005)

"Over the years, Scott became a collector of rare Bibles and often lived extravagantly, with a Pasadena mansion, chauffeured limousines, a private jet and horse ranches." ("Flamboyant TV pastor Gene Scott dies at 75," Houston Chronicle, February 24, 2005)

"Probably teach Hugh Hefner a thing or two" about sex and told those who refused to send money to "vomit on yourself with your head up in the air." (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

"There are so many horses' asses on television that I wanted to show the world what a whole horse looked like." (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

For non-givers, Scott warns: "If you get too smart with God, He might let you live this next year without Him so you can see the difference." (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

Among the tunes Scott occasionally orders up is "Kill a Pissant for Jesus." (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

"They never stop!" Scott protested to loud applause. "These judgmental a**es!" (Glenn F. Bunting; staff writer for The Times, "Shock Jock of Televangelism'" The Los Angeles Times 7/10/94.)

I think these are prime examples of why so many can't find faith.

Edited October 12, 2005 by Mongo

[Mongo]

Michigan, Texas, Nashville, West Virginia and California all have stations that claim to

still run his shows.

Texas here. Yes, he is still on air. But then again, we have the town of Vidor so what do you expect? (For those that don't know, Vidor is a town that is all white and when someone of non-white race tries to move in, the KKK show up to run them out. I think I heard that some hispanics managed to move to Vidor, but I know that some then moved out after harassment.)

[Ovedya]

Well Copeland, Hinn, Schuller, and Dollar I can see, but Billy Graham doesn't belong there in the same breath. Remember that thing on Sesame Street "One of these thing is different than the other things. One of these things does not belong"?

[Ovedya]

In my opinion Copeland is a bit "off."

[the_raven_1313]

Instead of telling you why I put Billy Graham on that list, I will show you by his quotes on various subjects, and then you can make up your own minds on whether you want to continue to trust him. I have made up my own mind on him, on things that I have read about him and things that I have heard come from his own mouth. Everyone is, of course entitled to their opinion and mine is when Billy Graham comes on, I switch him off.

ON SALVATION

"I used to think that pagans in far-off countries were lost -- were going to hell -- if they did not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to them. I no longer believe that. ... I believe there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God -- through nature, for instance -- and plenty of other opportunities, therefore, of saying yes to God."

ON BAPTISM

"I do believe that something happens at the baptism of an infant... we cannot fully understand the mysteries of God, but I believe that a miracle can happen in these children so that they are regenerated, that is, made Christian, through infant baptism."

ON HELL

"The only thing I could say for sure is that hell means separation from God. We are separated from His light, from His fellowship. That is going to hell. When it comes to a literal fire, I don't preach it because I'm not sure about it. When the Scripture uses fire concerning hell, that is possibly an illustration of how terrible it's going to be -- not fire but something worse, a thirst for God that cannot be quenched."

ON WHAT HEAVEN WILL BE LIKE