FJK Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 43 Topics Per Day: 0.10 Content Count: 3,349 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 1,305 Days Won: 1 Joined: 03/01/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted March 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, ayin jade said: Refusing to forgive and instead demanding the innocent lives of families be cut down. In the Lord's prayer, we pray to god to be forgiven of our sins against him as we (in the manner that) we forgive others sins against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ayin jade said: In the gospels Jesus spoke of someone whose debt was forgiven but who then refused to forgive the debts owed him. Jesus condemned that action. That is what you are doing. Refusing to forgive and instead demanding the innocent lives of families be cut down. How about Joshua who did that, not me. Obey the Law. @FJK Edited March 16, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, OneLight said: Never met the man, so how can I answer? You must know Jesus. Are you wiser than Him? Do you need to meet Joshua or other prophets to understand and follow their example ? What is Bible for ? Follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Ghostdog said: how far does family go? immidiate family? extended family? christian are a family as we are brothers and sisters in the lord so if one of us doe commit a crime do we all have to be killed? an eye for an eye is never a good thing So are you saying Joshua was wrong because they were brothers and sisters that Joshua killed ? What I'm trying to say is why not just apply this as Law in your nation as shown by God thru Joshua. Then those who breaks it will be death on their own risk. @ayin jade Edited March 16, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Do you need to meet Joshua or other prophets to understand and follow their example ? What is Bible for ? Follow. Let's cut to the chase here. What laws, if broken, would label one as corrupter? By the way, that was not your question, if I would follow Joshua or not, but if I thought I was wiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, OneLight said: What laws, if broken, would label one as corrupter? Thou shall not steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Thou shall not steal. Why just that one? What about adultery, lying, disobeying parents ... the rest of Gods 10 commandments? What makes stealing the top of your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, FJK said: In the Lord's prayer, we pray to god to be forgiven of our sins against him as we (in the manner that) we forgive others sins against us. Are you saying we must forgive all corruptor criminals ? Release them from jail ? They do not sin against us but against the whole citizen. Against God ultimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, OneLight said: Why just that one? What about adultery, lying, disobeying parents ... the rest of Gods 10 commandments? What makes stealing the top of your list? Read ye the story of the poor Lazarus and the ignorant rich man, that rich man was not a thief of nation's money by all means but God punished the rich for being ignorant. Howbeit God Will punish the rich corruptors while there are many poor in slum area and homeless. They steal billions and they wont stop, they can buy Law and Court. Make the Law of death sentence like "Joshua" Chicom for corruption and just apply it. Thats the deal of death for those who steal and break the Law blatantly. If you love people wisely protect them ! Don't say oh we must love love love, are you going to release all jails ? Why do you need cops and soldiers with guns ? Why cant they just love and love and forgive ? Edited March 16, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.21 Reputation: 9,763 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: Read ye the story of the poor Lazarus and the ignorant rich man, that rich man was not a thief of nation's money by all means but God punished the rich for being ignorant. Howbeit God Will punish the rich corruptors while there are many poor in slum area and homeless. They steal billions and they wont stop, they can buy Law and Court. Make the Law of death sentence like Chicom and just apply it. Thats the deal of death for those who steal and break the Law blatantly. If you love people wisely. Yet, in all that, you never answered my question. 19 minutes ago, OneLight said: Why just that one? What about adultery, lying, disobeying parents ... the rest of Gods 10 commandments? What makes stealing the top of your list? The story of Lazarus and the Rich Man was not about ignorance, which is not stealing by the way, but for the lack of faith in God and not following Moses and the Prophets. Perhaps you should take your own advice and read Luke 16:19-31. So, did someone steal from you that causes you to have so much hate for someone who steals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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