Suicide; The Unforgivable Sin Against The Body = I Samuel 31;4-6

[MizKJVOnly]

Suicide; The Unforgivable Sin Against The Body = I Samuel 31;4-6

 

 

*** Saul:

 

I Samuel 31;4-6

Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him. So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and all his men, that same day together.

 

II Samuel 1:5-10

And David said unto the young man that told him, How knowest thou that Saul and Jonathan his son be dead? And the young man that told him said, As I happened by chance upon mount Gilboa, behold, Saul leaned upon his spear; and, lo, the chariots and horsemen followed hard after him. And when he looked behind him, he saw me, and called unto me. And I answered, Here am I. And he said unto me, Who art thou? And I answered him, I am an Amalekite. He said unto me again, Stand, I pray thee, upon me, and slay me: for anguish is come upon me, because my life is yet whole in me. So I stood upon him, and slew him, because I was sure that he could not live after that he was fallen: and I took the crown that was upon his head, and the bracelet that was on his arm, and have brought them hither unto my lord.

 

 

*** Ahithophel:

 

II Samuel 17:1

Moreover Ahithophel said unto Absalom, Let me now choose out twelve thousand men, and I will arise and pursue after David this night:

 

II Samuel 17: 6-7

And when Hushai was come to Absalom, Absalom spake unto him, saying, Ahithophel hath spoken after this manner: shall we do after his saying? If not; speak thou. And Hushai said unto Absalom, The counsel that Ahithophel hath given is not good at this time.

 

II Samuel 17:14

And Absalom and all the men of Israel said, The counsel of Hushai the Archite is better than the counsel of Ahithophel. For the LORD had appointed to defeat the good counsel of Ahithophel, to the intent that the LORD might bring evil upon Absalom.

 

II Samuel 17:23

And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father.

 

 

*** Zimri:

 

I Kings 16:10

And Zimri went in and smote him, and killed him, in the twenty and seventh year of Asa king of Judah, and reigned in his stead.

 

I Kings 16:15-18

In the twenty and seventh year of Asa king of Judah did Zimri reign seven days in Tirzah. And the people were encamped against Gibbethon, which belonged to the Philistines. And the people that were encamped heard say, Zimri hath conspired, and hath also slain the king: wherefore all Israel made Omri, the captain of the host, king over Israel that day in the camp. And Omri went up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him, and they besieged Tirzah. And it came to pass, when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that he went into the palace of the king's house, and burnt the king's house over him with fire, and died.

 

 

*** Judas Iscariot:

 

Matthew 27:3-5

Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

 

Acts 1:16-19

Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

 

 

AMEN

 

[Jayne]

31 minutes ago, MizKJVOnly said:

Suicide; The Unforgivable Sin Against The Body = I Samuel 31;4-6

@MizKJVOnly

Absolutely not!!!  I know that you are not going to speak to me.  I've never seen you have a conversation with anyone here.  And that's OK. It's your decision.

But for others who have read your thread title and  are not sure.....

Let me tell you all that suicide IS forgivable.

Does that mean that one should consider it?  NO!  Flee from it.  Seek God's help.  Seek the help of the church, doctors, friends, the Bible, and the suicide hotline.  988.  It's sort of like dialing 911 - but with 8's.

A person who is a Christian can commit suicide for many reasons:

[1]  overwhelming grief

[2] adverse reaction to medications

[3] terrible mental/physical pain

[4] and more

That person sins when committing suicide, but their sins were and are covered by Christ.

A person who is not a Christian, whether they die natural or kill themselves, they go to hell.

[Selah7]

Suicide is not the unforgivable sin.  

[Selah7]

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

- Matthew 12:32 (KJV)

To deny the Holy Spirit with full knowledge of His presence and power, this is the unforgivable sin. There is no sacrifice greater than that of Yeshua Messiah when He was crucified on that Cross, and if anyone willfully denies Him (the Holy Spirit), there is no other atonement left.  

In Matthew 12, the Pharisees refused to teach the people the truth that Jesus Christ was standing right there before them—that the Kingdom of God had come. Knowing this in their hearts and witnessing His power, they willfully and purposefully lied and publicly denied His Spirit and taught others that His power was of Satan!  This is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

[JustClay]

5 hours ago, MizKJVOnly said:

Suicide; The Unforgivable Sin Against The Body = I Samuel 31;4-6

Absolutely not…. None of the scriptures you presented demonstrate any evidence that suicide is the unforgivable sin.  Suicide sadly causes the death of the flesh, but not the death of the spirit.  

[A.J.]

Suicide is forgivable.

[Marathoner]

There are things that, apart from the Lord from whom nothing is hidden, few know about. 

Suicide is certainly not unforgivable. Hardly. As others have pointed out, a scriptural case to the contrary hasn't been made by the OP. There are opinions, yes? Yes, many opinions. 

That's all. 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

8 hours ago, MizKJVOnly said:

Suicide; The Unforgivable Sin Against The Body = I Samuel 31;4-6

 

 

*** Saul:

 

I Samuel 31;4-6

Then said Saul unto his armourbearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and thrust me through, and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took a sword, and fell upon it. And when his armourbearer saw that Saul was dead, he fell likewise upon his sword, and died with him. So Saul died, and his three sons, and his armourbearer, and all his men, that same day together.

 

II Samuel 1:5-10

And David said unto the young man that told him, How knowest thou that Saul and Jonathan his son be dead? And the young man that told him said, As I happened by chance upon mount Gilboa, behold, Saul leaned upon his spear; and, lo, the chariots and horsemen followed hard after him. And when he looked behind him, he saw me, and called unto me. And I answered, Here am I. And he said unto me, Who art thou? And I answered him, I am an Amalekite. He said unto me again, Stand, I pray thee, upon me, and slay me: for anguish is come upon me, because my life is yet whole in me. So I stood upon him, and slew him, because I was sure that he could not live after that he was fallen: and I took the crown that was upon his head, and the bracelet that was on his arm, and have brought them hither unto my lord.

 

 

*** Ahithophel:

 

II Samuel 17:1

Moreover Ahithophel said unto Absalom, Let me now choose out twelve thousand men, and I will arise and pursue after David this night:

 

II Samuel 17: 6-7

And when Hushai was come to Absalom, Absalom spake unto him, saying, Ahithophel hath spoken after this manner: shall we do after his saying? If not; speak thou. And Hushai said unto Absalom, The counsel that Ahithophel hath given is not good at this time.

 

II Samuel 17:14

And Absalom and all the men of Israel said, The counsel of Hushai the Archite is better than the counsel of Ahithophel. For the LORD had appointed to defeat the good counsel of Ahithophel, to the intent that the LORD might bring evil upon Absalom.

 

II Samuel 17:23

And when Ahithophel saw that his counsel was not followed, he saddled his ass, and arose, and gat him home to his house, to his city, and put his household in order, and hanged himself, and died, and was buried in the sepulchre of his father.

 

 

*** Zimri:

 

I Kings 16:10

And Zimri went in and smote him, and killed him, in the twenty and seventh year of Asa king of Judah, and reigned in his stead.

 

I Kings 16:15-18

In the twenty and seventh year of Asa king of Judah did Zimri reign seven days in Tirzah. And the people were encamped against Gibbethon, which belonged to the Philistines. And the people that were encamped heard say, Zimri hath conspired, and hath also slain the king: wherefore all Israel made Omri, the captain of the host, king over Israel that day in the camp. And Omri went up from Gibbethon, and all Israel with him, and they besieged Tirzah. And it came to pass, when Zimri saw that the city was taken, that he went into the palace of the king's house, and burnt the king's house over him with fire, and died.

 

 

*** Judas Iscariot:

 

Matthew 27:3-5

Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? See thou to that. And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.

 

Acts 1:16-19

Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus. For he was numbered with us, and had obtained part of this ministry. Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.

 

 

AMEN

 

Suicide is NOT unforgivable. Yes it is definitely a sin, but all sin can be forgiven. All you did was show people who committed suicide in scripture, but not a single verse about it being unforgivable. There ARE people in Heaven who committed suicide.