Death and heaven

[Pilgrim7]

Felix,

Amen!! We are to renew our minds through the Holy Spirit who dwells in our heart or spirit. The new mind is to direct the body into new actions.

God Bless,

Dennis

[yomotalking]

I have a question, I believe that our souls stay with our bodies at death, But it has come to my attention that a lot of Christians believe that our souls go to heaven to GOD until the last day of judgement and then we are judge and sent to where ever we belong. I am very surprised by this beacause it makes no sense that we could live in heaven without bodies for so long, just to come and retrieve them later on? I do know that in 2kings Elisha asked Elijah to inherit a double portion of his spirit, which is what goes to heaven when we die. I do not believe that this is our soul! What do other christians think?

Hey L.P.

We are created in Gods image, so since God is a Spirit, then we are a spirit. We ARE a spirit, we have a soul, and we inhabit a body. Your body is not created, it is born of parents. Your spirit is created, and it has a soul. Your brain is the computer that holds the soul, because on a physical basis, your brain is just tissue, and your soul is your intellect, and your emotions. The spirits internal organs are the fruits of the Spirit.

*picks jaw up off the floor*

I have read less heresy in the writings of the worst Gnostics then what I just read here.

For one, both exist on the same ontological field while God transcends both metaphysically. Thus while we can read and see that "God is a spirit" the truth is that God is more. For one, God the Son came down in a physical form and even after His ressurection was able to eat (physical) but also transcend walls (spirit). In essence, soul, spirit, and body are all metaphysically the same whereas God is above it all. We are created in the image of God however this does not mean we are merely spirits inhabting a body. The soul relies upon the body and the body relies upon the soul. For one, the body is most definately a created thing, just like the soul. From the dust of the earth God pulled us together and then gave us life. Yes parents go through the process to create the baby, however we know from scripture that we are formed by God in the womb. This takes on the physical connotations, not just spiritual. God forms our physical and spiritual forms, there is no getting around it. To say we are solely spirit and we must transcend our body and this world is to take on a purely Gnostic view. Was Jesus just a spirit or did He have a physical form?

What/where is the heresy?

Is eternity better if it starts earlier?

Not sure what you mean by that....

oh geez, Jesus is goin to make up a fictituous character to give a Truth....

just like Jonah.

no wonder many orthodox dont teach all scritpure, just ECF beliefs.

genesis the parable.

The sower is a parable.

The Good Samaritan was a parable.

Jesus spoke in parables.

God's Word says so.

[yomotalking]

What is the point of having a soul, if it doesn't go to Heaven...?