'Christian tattoos to start a conversation as the Lord leads.'

[farouk]

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[farouk]

5 hours ago, JasperWalls11 said:

Tattoos, to me, are matter of personal conscience.

PS: @JasperWalls11: Romans 14 is indeed relevant, as @Mr. M said, above.......

Although it used to be identified a lot with men in the military and bikers, it seems like it's hard now for anyone to claim that having it done isn't lady-like, supposedly:

"I would be hard-pressed to come up with more than a handful of names of my friends who DON'T have at least one tattoo--and we are all suburban homeschooling moms, ages ranging from early-30s to mid-50s, living in conservative North Texas." greenvneck forums dot thewelltrainedmind dot com

What strikes me is the sheer amount of conservative ppl that have it done, according to various sources.

 

[farouk]

On 5/28/2023 at 10:32 PM, JasperWalls11 said:

one of them has Celtic designs and others have someone's name tattooed on them.  Most of them are pretty tame.

Hi @JasperWalls11 Sometimes ppl make claims:

Tattoos are unlady-like. That is why I would never have one.

 

I find this hard to believe. Individual preferences will vary hugely.

 

But the idea that because women are women they don't now participate fully if they wish in getting tattooed, is hard to believe, don't you think?

 

I have a tattoo, I am not ashamed of it, but it has no bearing on my salvation. .. We got a lot of folks inked in our Church. Myself, the Pastor, his daughter and grand daughter included. Now, even my wife  christianityboard dot com

 

Heavenhome talked about her area:

 

My dear Dad had two tattoos but that was from his navy days.
I have noticed however that lots of young girls have them and what is really noticeable is a huge amount are women say around their sixties .
christianforums

 

As per such quotes from other Christian sites, the idea that a tattoo parlor is somehow not a natural environment for women wishing to participate, is rather strange, don't you think?

 

(Even though some legalists might argue in such a way.)

 

Edited November 10, 2024 by farouk

[farouk]

On 5/26/2023 at 12:54 AM, Anne2 said:

I thought I should respond. I am so glad you left that option.

@Anne2 There is indeed such a range of views held. The thought strikes me also from a dispensational / amillennial  perspective that for Jews in the land in the OT under the law and NT believers under grace in the NT using Bible verse designs as effective witness tools, the whole situation is rather different now, in any case.

(If you follow the reasoning....?)

[JasperWalls11]

10 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @JasperWalls11 Sometimes ppl make claims:

Tattoos are unlady-like. That is why I would never have one.

 

I find this hard to believe. Individual preferences will vary hugely.

 

But the idea that because women are women they don't now participate fully if they wish in getting tattooed, is hard to believe, don't you think?

 

I have a tattoo, I am not ashamed of it, but it has no bearing on my salvation. ..I also agree that it makes a statement of freedom in Christ. .. We got a lot of folks inked in our Church. Myself, the Pastor, his daughter and grand daughter included. Now, even my wife  christianityboard dot com

 

Heavenhome talked about her area:

 

My dear Dad had two tattoos but that was from his navy days.
I have noticed however that lots of young girls have them and what is really noticeable is a huge amount are women say around their sixties .
christianforums

 

As per such quotes from other Christian sites, the idea that a tattoo parlor is somehow not a natural environment for women wishing to participate, is rather strange, don't you think?

 

(Even though some legalists might argue in such a way.)

 

That's interesting because I actually know more women than men with tattoos.  The tattoo parlors here are very well lit, very sanitary and don't have that dingy, "underground" or back alley image that most people think of.  They are rather reputable places.  I don't have a tattoo, and will never get one, but I have never been put off by them.    I would advise that those who plan on having a white-collar career later in life, should make sure that the tattoos are in an inconspicuous area that is easy to cover up with a shirt or blouse. To me, that's just commonsense.

[farouk]

12 minutes ago, JasperWalls11 said:

That's interesting because I actually know more women than men with tattoos.  The tattoo parlors here are very well lit, very sanitary

@JasperWalls11

Although in part of the 20th century it was regarded as identified with male sailors and bikers, today it seems to have come full circle; and in the 19th century it was quite widely regarded as as classy and womanly thing to do:

"Surprisingly, one of the major resurgences of interest in tattoos in Europe occurred among 19th century high society Victorian women (as well as men), after British explorers .. brought back the practice to Britain. .. grew during the 19th century, and even Winston Churchill’s mother had a tattoo .. on her wrist. Queen Victoria was also believed to have had a tattoo.. . From Victorian Europe...to America. In 1897, (art critic, Margot) Miffin says that an estimated 75% of American society women were tattooed.."

(Black Fire: Women, Tattoos, and the Transformative Power of Body Art )

Tattoo parlors today - which like you say are often more like salons now - reflect a coming full circle and it's not unusual for Christian women to receive designs in faith and family themes, right?

Even though there will also be legalistic and reactionary viewpoints.

[farouk]

On 5/26/2023 at 1:59 PM, Mr. M said:

 

I am not judging anything or any body.

 

I am ministering in the word and prayer, and I pray that this will

be received in a good spirit, and provide valuable insights and 

scripture to bear on the discussion. Still a good thread.

That's a blessing!

@Mr. M Put two, Godly believers from a similar background and outlook with the choice of going for a Bible verse tattoo: one might hesitate before the door of a tattoo parlor; the other might go inside.

[JasperWalls11]

49 minutes ago, farouk said:

@JasperWalls11

Although in part of the 20th century it was regarded as identified with male sailors and bikers, today it seems to have come full circle; and in the 19th century it was quite widely regarded as as classy and womanly thing to do:

"Surprisingly, one of the major resurgences of interest in tattoos in Europe occurred among 19th century high society Victorian women (as well as men), after British explorers .. brought back the practice to Britain. .. grew during the 19th century, and even Winston Churchill’s mother had a tattoo .. on her wrist. Queen Victoria was also believed to have had a tattoo.. . From Victorian Europe...to America. In 1897, (art critic, Margot) Miffin says that an estimated 75% of American society women were tattooed.."

(Black Fire: Women, Tattoos, and the Transformative Power of Body Art )

Tattoo parlors today - which like you say are often more like salons now - reflect a coming full circle and it's not unusual for Christian women to receive designs in faith and family themes, right?

Even though there will also be legalistic and reactionary viewpoints.

Yes I believe that to be true.  There are some very legalistic viewpoints in this regard.  The only biblical prohibition had to do with the ancient customs where pagan tattooed the images of their gods onto their bodies as part of their worship of those gods.   The Levitical priesthood was prohibited from doing such things in the worship of the true God.   I don't think that has anything to do with modern people getting innocuous tattoos or that of Christian images, as they are not worshiping pagan gods.  But that will not stop the legalists, LOL

[Mr. M]

18 minutes ago, farouk said:

@Mr. M Put two, Godly believers from a similar background and outlook with the choice of going for a Bible verse tattoo: one might hesitate before the door of a tattoo parlor; the other might go inside.

Hopefully a decision to go is from the voice of the Spirit 

[farouk]

18 hours ago, JasperWalls11 said:

There should not be too much controversy over it.  Sometimes, we can make an issue out of a nonissue. .. make sure that the tattoos are in an inconspicuous area that is easy to cover up with a shirt or blouse. To me, that's just commonsense.

@JasperWalls11 It's almost a bit amusing that up here between October and May with the colder weather come the long sleeves; then when May comes ppl serving in stores might suddenly show that they are tattooed; and sometimes it's ppl who might not at all fit the stereotypical image of a tattooed person. (And then in October the tattoos may suddenly disappear under the sleeves again for several months.)

I think it's a bit like double pierced ears, which have been around for several decades now. Although originally double studded earlobes might have been briefly regarded as a bit edgy, fashion-wise; yet today earnest, Godly grandmothers might have worn their double pairs of studs continuously for several decades and be regarded as the epitome of conservatism.

Today it's likely that a lot of ppl getting a little ink on a wrist - whether or not a Bible ref., etc. - would simply regard it like getting a second stud put in.

Similarly, for a lot of ppl of very conservative outlooks and tastes ...

GodsGrace said:

"almost every young girl I know has some sort of tatoo.
Even those very conservative types" source: christianityboard dot com

... the doorway into a tattoo parlor would likely not now inherently induce anxiety.