Judas

[Anne]

I doubt if you are new Jenni, I suspect you have been studying for quite some time. Long may you continue and i hope you find the truth of our Lord Jesus Christ

Anne

[Anne]

Mark, I know you mean no insult, but just so we are clear, i am not suggesting that the Book of Enoch is authentic, it may be, however it may not be!

What I was saying is that penfold previous answer was clearly influenced, right or wrongly, by the Book of Enoch.

Just my thoughts

A Servant of Christ Jesus

Anne

[ruah brit]

Judas was a devil. Do devils go to heaven? For that matter does anybody go to heaven? Where is the scripture that says anyone goes to heaven? But everyone who is in Christ is already in heaven.

Joh 6

70 Jesus answered them, "Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?"

Does this next scripture sound like Judas was saved to you?

Mt 26

24 The Son of Man indeed goes just as it is written of Him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been good for that man if he had not been born."

Lu 17

20 "The kingdom of God does not come with observation;

21 nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you."

Denise

[Catsmeow]

Judas never once referred to Jesus ...."My Lord"----it was always rabbi or master.

compare that to "doubting?" Thomas.

Joh 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Joh 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.(this kinda puts unitarians and the non-deitical types in the trash)

Joh 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

This is profound. I never had really consider this aspect of Judas...Whoa!

[Anne]

The truthful answer is this, did judas go to Heaven, no, Why? because as previously pointed out, he was a devil, accept it or not it is the truth.

[Anne]

Jenni,

I just wanted to add a quick note to you, i've read through some of my previous posts, and to be honest even to me they sound a bit rude and ignorant, I apologise for my attitude.

A servant of Christ Jesus

Anne

[Davidian]

I reckon we are on a roll here. Why don

[abbershay]

I dont want to sound please dont take this in that sence.

I wrote my thesis in seminary on that subject

[Anne]

Whew, i thought for a short moment there, people were suggesting that Judas was saved!