Against All Odds: Israel Survives

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, JasperWalls11 said:

Yes, we have been a blessing to Isarel as they continue to fight a war of attrition by the Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations who are dedicated to Israel's destruction.    God has used the US in His protection of Isarel. That has been to our benefit.  Unfortunately, the current administration wants to empower the terrorists who are dedicated to Israel's destruction. 

You believe God needs the US to protect Israel?You must not think much of God's power if you think he needs the US.

If God wanted to protect the people of Israel,they wouldn't be dying everyday.He would make fire come down out of heaven and destroy their enemies.

Apparently,the people of Israel are not the people he protects in the bible.Nor is the government they have chosen the same king God has chosen.

Yes ,I believe the USA better help the Israeli government all it can if it wants to be its savour.

 

Still I think the US goverment will fall short and Israel's enemies will overcome them 

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21 minutes ago, FJK said:

The Bible had definite things to say about those who bless Israel and those who curse Israel.

It is wise to understand them.

Actually,I think that has more to do with Christ and his kingdom than Benjamin Netanyahu and his kingdom.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[JasperWalls11]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

You believe God needs the US to protect Israel?You must not think much of God's power if you think he needs the US.

If God wanted to protect the people of Israel,they wouldn't be dying everyday.He would make fire come down out of heaven and destroy their enemies.

Apparently,the people of Israel are not the people he protects in the bible.Nor is the government they have chosen the same king God has chosen.

Yes ,I believe the USA better help the Israeli government all it can if it wants to be its savour.

 

Still I think the US goverment will fall short and Israel's enemies will overcome them 

God doesn't need the US to protect Israel. He doesn't need anything at all.    They are not dying everyday.  In fact, fewer Israelis die as a result of terror attacks, then the Palestinians who face Israel's response to terrorism.  God will eventually, according to Bible prophecy, destroy all of their enemies.  God is clearly on Israel's side.    The Bible tells us in several places that God will preserve Israel against their enemies. 

“On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a blazing pot in the midst of wood, like a flaming torch among sheaves. And they shall devour to the right and to the left all the surrounding peoples, while Jerusalem shall again be inhabited in its place, in Jerusalem. “And the LORD will give salvation to the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem may not surpass that of Judah. On that day the LORD will protect the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them on that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the angel of the LORD, going before them." (Zec 12:6-8)

That has not happened at any time in Israel since Zechariah made that prophecy.  I believe will be the generation that sees this happen.  Israel has never lost a war. 

The US is not trying to be Israel's savior.  We are an ally of Israel and Israel buys their weapons for us.  That benefits us.  Keeps a lot of Americans in jobs. 

God will preserve Israel and Israel will be spiritually restored and God will fulfill all of His promises to Israel.  And the nations will come to Israel to worship the Lord during the Millennium.  Israel has a glorious future.   And we can rejoice who know Jesus because we will be there in Israel worshipping the King of kings!!  

 

[JasperWalls11]

6 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Actually,I think that has more to do with Christ and his kingdom than Benjamin Netanyahu and his kingdom.

No, the Bible makes it clear, three times in the OT that God blesses those who bless Israel and judges those who curse Israel.  "Israel" always means "Israel." And it doesn't matter who the head of the Israeli government is.  That is irrelevant. 

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1 minute ago, JasperWalls11 said:

God doesn't need the US to protect Israel. He doesn't need anything at all.    They are not dying everyday.  In fact, fewer Israelis die as a result of terror attacks, then the Palestinians who face Israel's response to terrorism.  God will eventually, according to Bible prophecy, destroy all of their enemies.  God is clearly on Israel's side.    The Bible tells us in several places that God will preserve Israel against their enemies. 

“On that day I will make the clans of Judah like a blazing pot in the midst of wood, like a flaming torch among sheaves. And they shall devour to the right and to the left all the surrounding peoples, while Jerusalem shall again be inhabited in its place, in Jerusalem. “And the LORD will give salvation to the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem may not surpass that of Judah. On that day the LORD will protect the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them on that day shall be like David, and the house of David shall be like God, like the angel of the LORD, going before them." (Zec 12:6-8)

That has not happened at any time in Israel since Zechariah made that prophecy.  I believe will be the generation that sees this happen.  Israel has never lost a war. 

The US is not trying to be Israel's savior.  We are an ally of Israel and Israel buys their weapons for us.  That benefits us.  Keeps a lot of Americans in jobs. 

God will preserve Israel and Israel will be spiritually restored and God will fulfill all of His promises to Israel.  And the nations will come to Israel to worship the Lord during the Millennium.  Israel has a glorious future.   And we can rejoice who know Jesus because we will be there in Israel worshipping the King of kings!!  

 

No,The USA is trying to save Israel and deliver it from its enemies.The Israeli government knows it needs that help as well.

They need all the help from the USA they can get.Like I said though ,their enemies will overcome them.

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2 minutes ago, JasperWalls11 said:

No, the Bible makes it clear, three times in the OT that God blesses those who bless Israel and judges those who curse Israel.  "Israel" always means "Israel." And it doesn't matter who the head of the Israeli government is.  That is irrelevant. 

Really,show us a verse where it says that

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3 minutes ago, JasperWalls11 said:

No, the Bible makes it clear, three times in the OT that God blesses those who bless Israel and judges those who curse Israel.  "Israel" always means "Israel." And it doesn't matter who the head of the Israeli government is.  That is irrelevant. 

What happened in 70 ad?

Romans cursed Israel and God blessed Romans.

Edited May 29, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[JasperWalls11]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

What happened in 70 ad?

Temple and Jerusalem was destroyed by Rome.  The Roman empire later fell and no longer exists. Israel is here today and is an advanced nation.  In fact, no empire that has ever come against Israel still exists today. 

[JasperWalls11]

3 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Really,show us a verse where it says that

A verse that says what?  That those who bless Israel will be blessed by God and those who curse Israel will be judged by God? 

[Shilohsfoal]

Just now, JasperWalls11 said:

Temple and Jerusalem was destroyed by Rome.  The Roman empire later fell and no longer exists. Israel is here today and is an advanced nation.  In fact, no empire that has ever come against Israel still exists today. 

The Roman empire later fell after many Romans converted to Christ and became the sons of God.

Romans cursed those who called themselves Israel and God blessed the Romans through Jesus Christ.