Neighbor Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 953 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,587 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,056 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Online Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted June 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, The Light said: 10 hours ago, seeking the lost said: Jesus tells us in Revelation 3 that He is coming soon. Hi, Perhaps not soon, but instead quickly when He comes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveWire Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 392 Content Per Day: 1.01 Reputation: 139 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/06/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 I absolutely believe that Jesus will be here in a couple of weeks, actually. ... --- ... My buddy, Je'sus, owns a car detail business and we're livening up a 67 Mercury Caliente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 32 minutes ago, seeking the lost said: The simple logic does not work. The first resurrection is not until the end of the tribulation. That resurrection is clearly labeled as the first resurrection. Doing the math, how many resurrections come before the first resurrection? First; meaning preeminence, superior to, the Best, the Gold Standard. Now one should consider; who are the, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th fruits which go into the First Resurrection, and who goes when. Christ being the First Fruit. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, seeking the lost said: Rev. 20: 4,5, And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. This is the first resurrection.… You said the first resurrection happens at the END OF THE TRIBULAITON. The verses you are quoting happen at the END OF GODS WRATH. Do you not understand that the first resurrection is the resurrection of the righteous. I know that you do not believe in the pretrib rapture and therefore think it is acceptable to eliminate the dead in Christ rising when Jesus comes before the seals are opened. This is the barley harvest. So you can pretend that there is no barley harvest. But what do you do with the second harvest of the fig tree. Do you pretend that Daniel 12 is not there. Daniel 12 happens when the great tribulation occurs. The is at the fifth seal. Daniel 12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. There is war in heaven. Michael and his angels prevail and Satan and his angels are kicked out of heaven. Revelation 12 7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. We see that event in Olivet Discourse. Mark 13 25 And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. This happens at the 6th seal Revelation 6 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. So the verses that you quote happen AFTER THE WRATH OF GOD, which is AFTER the 7th seal is opened. Daniel 12 happens at the 6th seal. So what do you do with the resurrection that happens at the 6th seal? Do you pretend it's not there or are you unaware of this resurrection. ' Edited June 16, 2023 by The Light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Neighbor said: Hi, Perhaps not soon, but instead quickly when He comes. Well that's a good point. But I think He's coming soon. Real soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 37 minutes ago, Montana Marv said: First; meaning preeminence, superior to, the Best, the Gold Standard. Now one should consider; who are the, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th fruits which go into the First Resurrection, and who goes when. Christ being the First Fruit. In Christ Montana Marv Sounds interesting. Could you break that down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, LiveWire said: I absolutely believe that Jesus will be here in a couple of weeks, actually. I think it will be more than two weeks. Do you have a feast day or a reason that it will happen in a couple of weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana Marv Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 3,135 Content Per Day: 0.69 Reputation: 1,091 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 8 minutes ago, The Light said: Sounds interesting. Could you break that down? There maybe 4, 5, or 6 entries into the Resurrection for the Just (the Gold Standard) also called the First Resurrection. Christ was the First Fruit into the Resurrection for the Just. There are most likely 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Fruits which will enter the Resurrection for the Just at different periods of time. There are Two entries into the LOF. The Second Death, Resurrection. The first two to occupy the LOF are the beast (A/C) and the False Prophet before the 1000 years. The rest follow at the GWT judgment following the 1000 years. In Christ Montana Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seeking the lost Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 496 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 209 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/15/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Montana Marv said: First; meaning preeminence, superior to, the Best, the Gold Standard. Now one should consider; who are the, 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th fruits which go into the First Resurrection, and who goes when. Christ being the First Fruit. In Christ Montana Marv It could be that it just means first. Speculation leads to error. To go beyond the text may be considered as adding to the writings of this book. This is not a recreational game. Because of this warning, it is best to stay as close to the text as possible. Rev. 22: Nothing May Be Added 18For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Light Posted June 16, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted June 16, 2023 31 minutes ago, Montana Marv said: There maybe 4, 5, or 6 entries into the Resurrection for the Just (the Gold Standard) also called the First Resurrection. Christ was the First Fruit into the Resurrection for the Just. There are most likely 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th Fruits which will enter the Resurrection for the Just at different periods of time. Can you explain that to Seeking the Lost? He doesn't understand that and I'm not having any success presenting the facts. You aren't pretrib are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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