Signs of the times?

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Israel formed as a nation in 1948. The generation that sees this will not pass away until all these things happen. A generation of strengh is 80 years. 1948 plus 80 years is 2028.

Psalms 90

¹⁰ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

The question is who flies away. Not the Church. The Church flies away before the seals are opened. The 144,000 are first fruits of those that fly away.

Not many will get this.......but that flying away event will occur at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal (Matthew 24:29-31), before the wrath of God. There is an asteroid, Apophis, coming in 2029 which looks like the event of the 3rd trumpet of wrath. The Lord returns for Armageddon 1 year after wrath begins, which is the opening of the 7th seal. This would put Jesus feet on the Mount of Olives in 2030.

Nah.......just a bunch of coincidences that happen to line up. Right? 

Ezekiel 38 and 39 occurs after the 1000 years.

Revelation 20

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

 

Psalms 90

¹⁰ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

 

 

I don't believe the Israel government lasts past 2028.It is strong though.

 

Daniel ,7:20

And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

[The Light]

14 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

The sorrows in verse 8,is a time of great tribulation.

Word: wdin

Pronounce: o-deen'

Strongs Number: G5604

Orig: akin to 3601; a pang or throe, especially of childbirth:--pain, sorrow, travail. G3601

Use: TDNT-9:667,1353 Noun Feminine

Heb Strong: H2256 H2256 H2342 H2427 H3205 H4856 H6735

1. 1) the pain of childbirth, travail pain, birth pangs
   2) intolerable anguish, in reference to the dire calamities precede the advent of the Messiah

 

The beginning of sorrows is not the great tribulation. The great tribulation occurs when the AOD is set up.

 

14 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

 

Before this time of anguish in verse 8,caused by the war of Armageddon in verse 7,the christians in Israel are imprisoned and killed.

You are way off. You need to rethink this.

The war spoken of is when the rider on the white horse goes forth conquering and to conquer. This is the 1st seal. Armageddon occurs in the 7th seal at the end of the trumpets.

14 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

The imprisonment and murder of the christians in Israel ,starts 3.5 years before the time of the end.

Daniel 11:33

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

 

The war in Mathew 24:7 is at the time of the end in Daniel 11:40.

Daniel 11:40

“At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood.
 

1st seal rider on the white horse. Armageddon is 7th seal during the last part of the trumpets.

 

14 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Luke's account that the persecution of the christians in Israel takes place before the war of Armageddon agrees with Daniels account of the same events.

 

Luke 21

¹⁰ Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

¹¹ And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

¹² But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake

Lukes account.............BUT BEFORE ALL THESE is talking about the 70AD destruction.

Matthews account does not talk about 70AD as he uses the word THEN. He talks future event.

Matthew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

[The Light]

19 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

Psalms 90

¹⁰ The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

 

 

I don't believe the Israel government lasts past 2028.It is strong though.

 

Daniel ,7:20

And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

I totally agree that the Israeli government will not last past 2028 as the Woman, Israel will flee to a place of protection for 3.5 years. And that could occur in the year.............

[Shilohsfoal]

16 minutes ago, The Light said:

The beginning of sorrows is not the great tribulation. The great tribulation occurs when the AOD is set up.

 

You are way off. You need to rethink this.

The war spoken of is when the rider on the white horse goes forth conquering and to conquer. This is the 1st seal. Armageddon occurs in the 7th seal at the end of the trumpets.

1st seal rider on the white horse. Armageddon is 7th seal during the last part of the trumpets.

 

Lukes account.............BUT BEFORE ALL THESE is talking about the 70AD destruction.

Matthews account does not talk about 70AD as he uses the word THEN. He talks future event.

Matthew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

 

 

Luke 21 isn't talking about 70 ad.It is an account of events that take place before  Christ coming.Unless you are trying to say Christ came in 70 ad,you must agree that that these things have not taken place.

 

Luke 21

¹² But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

¹³ And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

¹⁴ Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

¹⁵ For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

¹⁶ And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

¹⁷ And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

¹⁸ But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

¹⁹ In your patience possess ye your souls.

²⁰ And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

 

²¹ Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

²² For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

²³ But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

²⁵ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

²⁶ Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

²⁷ And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

²⁸ And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

[Shilohsfoal]

22 minutes ago, The Light said:

The beginning of sorrows is not the great tribulation. The great tribulation occurs when the AOD is set up.

 

You are way off. You need to rethink this.

The war spoken of is when the rider on the white horse goes forth conquering and to conquer. This is the 1st seal. Armageddon occurs in the 7th seal at the end of the trumpets.

1st seal rider on the white horse. Armageddon is 7th seal during the last part of the trumpets.

 

Lukes account.............BUT BEFORE ALL THESE is talking about the 70AD destruction.

Matthews account does not talk about 70AD as he uses the word THEN. He talks future event.

Matthew 24

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

 

PS

The time of sorrows takes place after nation rises against nation.

 

⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows.

 

The great tribulation takes place after nation rises against nation at the time of the end.

Daniel 12:1

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

 

 

You must not realize what weapon the armed forces of the north uses to cause desolation .

[Last Daze]

On 8/31/2023 at 9:11 AM, luigi said:

As many of us are aware we are living in the last times, where then do events transpiring today correlate with those in prophesy describing these events?

We're in stage-setting mode, the first seal.

The white horse rider of the first seal is given a victor's crown and a bow.  His arrows are the flaming arrows of the evil one and he is given a measure of success in the spreading of those lies.  He will have the appearance of godliness but will deny the power thereof.

His goal is to throw down the harlot and enthrone the man of sin.  That's where we are now, in the process of destroying the harlot (deep state, swamp, apostate Jews).  When the beast and his ten horns deal the death blow to the harlot, it signifies the opening of the second seal.

[Shilohsfoal]

41 minutes ago, The Light said:

I totally agree that the Israeli government will not last past 2028 as the Woman, Israel will flee to a place of protection for 3.5 years. And that could occur in the year.............

The woman will be fleeing from the Israel government.

She flees when Benjamin netanyahu passes legislation for everyone in Israel to be microchipped.It will be part of his cashless society he's been working on.

 

At a press conference, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu suggested that microchipping everyone, beginning with children returning to school and kindergarten as the coronavirus lockdown ends; the chip would sound an alarm whenever anyone gets too close much as a car does. Security experts immediately objected on the grounds that microchipping kids was neither legal nor practical, that the children would be at risk from paedophiles if their data leaked to the internet; and that the real issue is enforcement.

http://privacyinternational.org/examples/3915/israeli-prime-minister-proposes-microchipping-children-enforce-social-distancing#:~:text=At a press conference%2C Israeli,much as a car does.

 

 

Since this time,Netanyahu and his government has passed legislation so that he can make unreasonable laws by hamstringing the supreme court removing its unreasonable clause.

He is also trying to change the way the makeup of the supreme court is made so that he can change the laws in Israel.

 

Daniel 7:25

²⁵ And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

 

The woman will flee from the Israeli government just before the saints are imprisoned and killed in Israel.

 

revelation 12

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

Jesus commands his disciples not to leave Israel in the gospel.Those who keep the commandments of God and have this testimony won't flee with the woman.

 

Mathew 10.

⁵ These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

Edited September 2, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[The Light]

27 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

 

Luke 21 isn't talking about 70 ad.It is an account of events that take place before  Christ coming.Unless you are trying to say Christ came in 70 ad,you must agree that that these things have not taken place.

 

Luke 21

¹² But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

¹³ And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

¹⁴ Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

¹⁵ For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

¹⁶ And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

¹⁷ And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

¹⁸ But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

¹⁹ In your patience possess ye your souls.

²⁰ And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

 

²¹ Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

²² For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

²³ But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.

²⁴ And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

²⁵ And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

²⁶ Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

 

²⁷ And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

²⁸ And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.

Luke is talking about what will happen in 70 AD when the Roman destroy the city and Temple.

Matthew is talking about the future destruction of Jerusalem.

[The Light]

23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

PS

The time of sorrows takes place after nation rises against nation.

 

⁷ For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

⁸ All these are the beginning of sorrows.

The beginning of sorrows includes nation rising against nation.

23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

The great tribulation takes place after nation rises against nation at the time of the end.

Daniel 12:1

And at that time Michael the great prince shall stand up, that stands over the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of tribulation, such tribulation as has not been from the time that there was a nation on the earth until that time: at that time thy people shall be delivered, even every one that is written in the book.

I know. And neither nation rising against nation nor the great tribulation has anything to do with Armageddon which takes place during the 7th seal.

 

23 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

 

You must not realize what weapon the armed forces of the north uses to cause desolation .

I realize that. But of course who is the armed forces of the north is the question.

[Shilohsfoal]

5 minutes ago, The Light said:

Luke is talking about what will happen in 70 AD when the Roman destroy the city and Temple.

Matthew is talking about the future destruction of Jerusalem.

No,the Olivet discourse in Luke is about the same events in the olivet discourse in Mathew and mark.

They are all speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem at the time of the end when Jerusalem is made desolate.