R. Hartono Posted September 27, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 18%3A21-22&version=KJV Tithe for offerings at Tabernacle was strictly for the Levit. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/261275-the-greatest-scam-by-the-church-tithe/ Edited November 4, 2023 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted December 23, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted December 23, 2023 On 9/28/2023 at 12:05 AM, R. Hartono said: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 18%3A21-22&version=KJV Tithe for offerings at Tabernacle was strictly for the Levit. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/261275-the-greatest-scam-by-the-church-tithe/ Numbers 18:7 But only you and your sons may serve as priests in connection with everything at the altar and inside the curtain. I am giving you the service of the priesthood as a gift. Anyone else who comes near the sanctuary is to be put to death.” There is no other mention of death in numbers 18. Of the tithe and sacrificial offerings, the sacrifices could only be eaten by men in a holy place, while the tithe etc could be eaten by any of the levity families who were ceremonially clean. The tithe served two purposes, it rewarded the levies for there service and it was for the upkeep of the temple. Today a Christians offering does the same thing. Pays for the minister, the church building and for other tasks as decided by the church. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 23, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Who me said: Numbers 18:7 But only you and your sons may serve as priests in connection with everything at the altar and inside the curtain. I am giving you the service of the priesthood as a gift. Anyone else who comes near the sanctuary is to be put to death.” There is no other mention of death in numbers 18. Of the tithe and sacrificial offerings, the sacrifices could only be eaten by men in a holy place, while the tithe etc could be eaten by any of the levity families who were ceremonially clean. The tithe served two purposes, it rewarded the levies for there service and it was for the upkeep of the temple. Today a Christians offering does the same thing. Pays for the minister, the church building and for other tasks as decided by the church. The God of the Bible never ask for money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted December 24, 2023 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted December 24, 2023 4 hours ago, R. Hartono said: The God of the Bible never ask for money. But . . . Deuteronomy 14:25 says, “then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose” 1. This verse is referring to the practice of exchanging tithes for money, which was a common practice in ancient Israel. The money could then be used to purchase food or other necessities for the household 1. I hope this helps! [Collated by BingChat] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 20 hours ago, Michael37 said: But . . . Deuteronomy 14:25 says, “then exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place the LORD your God will choose” 1. This verse is referring to the practice of exchanging tithes for money, which was a common practice in ancient Israel. The money could then be used to purchase food or other necessities for the household 1. I hope this helps! [Collated by BingChat] That Will be used by the Hebrew to buy food and drink for their celebration of Sukkot festival in Jerusalem, NOT FOR GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted December 25, 2023 1 hour ago, R. Hartono said: That Will be used by the Hebrew to buy food and drink for their celebration of Sukkot festival in Jerusalem, NOT FOR GOD. . . . For use in His Presence according to His Will. Deu 14:24-26 But if the journey is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, when the LORD your God has blessed you, (25) then you shall exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. (26) And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 65 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,090 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 608 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 25, 2023 On 12/24/2023 at 12:29 AM, R. Hartono said: The God of the Bible never ask for money. No but Peter etc got paid. In Holland they often have to work for free, except when a church is really big, but why do that? Why serve rich people for free at the expense of your own family? I went to a church here. A woman started to complain that they started 5 mins too late. Guy said annoyed: Hold your horses. We all work for free here. Unbelievable how many demands some of those people have, but they keep their money in their pockets. Let the pastor go to the food bank on a borrowed bike while they buy a new kitchen. Absurd to serve such people for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Michael37 said: . . . For use in His Presence according to His Will. Deu 14:24-26 But if the journey is too long for you, so that you are not able to carry the tithe, or if the place where the LORD your God chooses to put His name is too far from you, when the LORD your God has blessed you, (25) then you shall exchange it for money, take the money in your hand, and go to the place which the LORD your God chooses. (26) And you shall spend that money for whatever your heart desires: for oxen or sheep, for wine or similar drink, for whatever your heart desires; you shall eat there before the LORD your God, and you shall rejoice, you and your household. You see they don't give that money to the Levit but to buy food and drink for them in Sukkot festival at Jerusalem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted December 25, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,937 Content Per Day: 3.07 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted December 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Renskedejonge said: No but Peter etc got paid. In Holland they often have to work for free, except when a church is really big, but why do that? Why serve rich people for free at the expense of your own family? I went to a church here. A woman started to complain that they started 5 mins too late. Guy said annoyed: Hold your horses. We all work for free here. Unbelievable how many demands some of those people have, but they keep their money in their pockets. Let the pastor go to the food bank on a borrowed bike while they buy a new kitchen. Absurd to serve such people for free. Paul refused to eat free bread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted December 26, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 65 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,090 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 608 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Online Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Paul refused to eat free bread. Paul was single. Peter's wife didn't take care of 10 kids plus went fishing to feed them so he could work full time for free. Rich church goers taking advantage of a pastor is just as bad as rich pastors who eat the houses of the widows. It's just the other extreme. What you see here is that they do it for free, but it's a group retired people who can pay that or they just have a full time normal job and preach once a month for free. Then this one, then that one, no counselling, no Bible school, no courses for new converts and no prayer and all that stuff. Edited December 26, 2023 by Renskedejonge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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