RdJ Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,213 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 693 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Still Alive said: That's already happened. Even in North Korea. Depends how you read it. Lots of people in Holland have never heard the Gospel, but Holland has heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,029 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 1,226 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: Depends how you read it. Lots of people in Holland have never heard the Gospel, but Holland has heard it. I don't take the phrase literally. IMO, it is making a point, and I think that point has been satisfied. There will always be people that have not heard the "full" message and even individuals that have never heard of Jesus. But that doesn't mean the message has not been preached to the "whole world". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,213 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 693 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted October 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Still Alive said: I don't take the phrase literally. IMO, it is making a point, and I think that point has been satisfied. There will always be people that have not heard the "full" message and even individuals that have never heard of Jesus. But that doesn't mean the message has not been preached to the "whole world". I used to think it was about before the ac and 7 years come, but now I think it's about before He comes, because in the trib an uncountable multitude will be saved and: Revelation 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,653 Content Per Day: 12.18 Reputation: 3,389 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: I used to think it was about before the ac and 7 years come, but now I think it's about before He comes, because in the trib an uncountable multitude will be saved and: Revelation 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— @Renskedejonge Does your mother whom you said you pray with have a similar outlook about future things? My wife and I would share similar premillennial views; we would see the church for example in 1 Thess. 4, while tribulation saints in Matt. 24, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,213 Content Per Day: 0.39 Reputation: 693 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted October 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, farouk said: @Renskedejonge Does your mother whom you said you pray with have a similar outlook about future things? My wife and I would share similar premillennial views; we would see the church for example in 1 Thess. 4, while tribulation saints in Matt. 24, etc. Yes she believes that too. She had a dream years ago that she was in a white dress and got raptured and my dad held her dress and got raptured too. Then he was an atheist. He got saved last year. They're 88 and 87. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still Alive Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 13 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,029 Content Per Day: 1.32 Reputation: 1,226 Days Won: 3 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: I used to think it was about before the ac and 7 years come, but now I think it's about before He comes, because in the trib an uncountable multitude will be saved and: Revelation 14:6 Then I saw another angel flying in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach to those who dwell on the earth—to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people— Exactly! I believe it has been preached "...to every nation, tribe, tongue, and people...". But not every single individual. I had a friend just a few days ago admit he was having a crisis in faith because he "realized" that Psalm 91 is a lie. We were able to clear it up. You take much of what the bible says literally at your peril. (don't even get me started on the 6,000 year old earth). And sometimes the issue is not with what it says, but what people interpret it to mean. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farouk Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 26 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 6,653 Content Per Day: 12.18 Reputation: 3,389 Days Won: 31 Joined: 11/18/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Renskedejonge said: Yes she believes that too. She had a dream years ago that she was in a white dress and got raptured and my dad held her dress and got raptured too. Then he was an atheist. He got saved last year. They're 88 and 87. @Renskedejonge God bless your parents richly! Isaiah 46.4: "And even to your old age I am he; and even to hoar hairs will I carry you: I have made, and I will bear; even I will carry, and will deliver you." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewardofthemystery Posted October 27, 2023 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 114 Topics Per Day: 0.33 Content Count: 978 Content Per Day: 2.79 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/02/2023 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) On 10/14/2023 at 8:25 PM, backontrack said: Israel begins to plead for Jesus come When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in (6th seal signs) God shall remove ungodliness from Jacob (Israel) and God shall pour out His Spirit of Grace upon them, and the tribes of Israel shall mourn for Him, whom they had pierced. Zechariah 12 King James Version 12 The burden of the word of the Lord for Israel, saith the Lord, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him. 2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. 4 In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God. 6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. 7 The Lord also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8 In that day shall the Lord defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the Lord before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart. Edited October 27, 2023 by Stewardofthemystery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdHoc Posted October 28, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 4 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,067 Content Per Day: 3.29 Reputation: 1,466 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/29/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2023 22 hours ago, Still Alive said: I won't have to wait long. I'm almost 70. We're not far apart. Go well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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