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Hello,

today was watching Franklin Graham as he went to visit Benjamin Netanyahu

 

you can see the  You tube  video  

 

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42 minutes ago, Blendrainer0o said:

Hello,

today was watching Franklin Graham as he went to visit Benjamin Netanyahu

you can see the  You tube  video  

Hi @Blendrainer0o

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1 hour ago, Blendrainer0o said:

Hello,

today was watching Franklin Graham as he went to visit Benjamin Netanyahu

 

you can see the  You tube  video  

 

That's great... thanks for the info.

And a warm welcome to you.

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thank you so much.

I believe that Franklin Graham is a good man who is stepping out to make this journey to Israel and pressing onward in faith to despite and press aside all of the negative forces existing  around the world that do not love the Hebrew people

True American patriots can identify with the ideals of a Hebrew homeland

as the early arival of the very first original   -     Puritians and Pilgrams 

 

 The first Puritans to arrive in America aboard the Mayflower in  1620

AND   -      Only  59  of  these  102  Mayflower Puritans survived the first winter after arriving to America.

None of these remaining  Puritans  59  Puritans  are  recorded  or  known  to have  ever  persecuted  or  harmed  anyone.

 And the Salem witch trials did not even take place until February  1692

THIS   IS   72  YEARS   AFTER  THE  MAYFLOWER  PURITIANS  ARRIVED  TO  AMERICA

72  years   AFTERWARDS     !  -        these  original  puritans  were not  even alive to defend or effect the accused witches who were a part of the Salem witch trials 

there simply is no evidence that any   TRUE   PURITIAN  had  ever persecuted anyone.  At anytime.

From 1629 through 1643,   -     approximately 21,000 people   CLAIMING   to  be  Puritans immigrated to New England   -    and the Salem witch trials did not even take place until February 1692 ,  72  years after the  original  Puritans had arrived.

  I  openly  admitted,   clearly,  that  there  most likely would be  people  claiming  to  be Puritans  who  would  be  harsh, unkind and even violent.

But when we look at the facts  -  we do not see any connection to the Original Puritans aboard the Mayflower, connecting these families or their grandchildren to conducting violence or persecution
 
All we see on the internet is information saying that the Puritans persecuted  or executed  two women named   -    Ann Austin and Mary Fisher on  October 1659   -  

   this is  40  years after the  original  Puritans had  begun to arrive to America.

Also,  England had already begun dumping and criminals and deviants and convicted criminals into America  since  1610   -  this is  ten  years  before the Puritans even began moving to America.


 
we see that   -   the first execution in America in Puritan  areas  took  place  after  50  years  of  shipping  in  criminals,  murderers, rapists, thieves and the mentally insane and every form of evil in humanity


AFTER  50  years following the first original Puritians,  arival  -    we find a record accusing Puritans of persecuting and executing two women  -    we do not know if any Puritan majority  had  any  influence  or involvement  with  executing or persecuting anyone   and  from 1629 through 1643,   -     approximately 21,000 people   CLAIMING   to  be  Puritans immigrated to New England   -    and the Salem witch trials did not even take place until February 1692 ,  72  years after the  Puritans began arriving.


 -  I am convinced that any  honest  Puritan community that respected the freedoms and religious rights of others had the absolute right to ask that other individuals of other faiths stay out of their community.  


Anyone could claim to be a Puritan,  and by the  1700s  there  were  around  250,888  Europeans living in America.
In conclusion   -  I am certain that much of the history involving the origial Puritan community is false and has been manipulated 

 

I believe  that  that King James succeeded and accomplished his goal in destroying the reputation of the Puritans -   and that he enjoyed it,  as if he was an adult playing a child’s game against children.
 
it is possible that the   original  PURITANS   had no control or participation nor involvement in persecuting  accused  witches    NOR  had  any  direct involvement in persecuting  and abusing and torturing and killing others.
 
Meaning  -  they had no control   -   and had completely lost all their ability to govern themselves.


Just three years after paying their debts to England for the voyage aboard the Mayflower  -  the English Government began an extermination crusade to suppress and destroy the Puritan's ability to prosper and maintain their livelihood.
 
Yes  -    We see that the   PURITANS  asked that others outside of their faith to stop attempting to enter into their community to change their religious faith.
 
But by the time the executions of Witches and Quakers  begin to take place   -  this was decades after  -  after the  first  Puritans  had begun to arrive -   they,  the  Puritans  were surrounded by thousands of outsiders -  troublemakers and manipulators who England would  and  did  promote, reward, encourage and advance and insert into their Puritan community  -  Protestant  defilers  intent  on  destring  their influence, their ability to grow and prosper and be self-sufficient.

I am simply looking at all of the facts   -    and  encourage others to move beyond the   One  Step  Theology  and the submissive worship to the Spiritual  Father  King  James  who made war upon the original puritians .

King James hated and persecuted the   "" American bound  ""   Puritians  because of  their views, especially their denial of the divine authority of kings. He believed the Puritans and the Geneva Bible were hostile to the monarchy

King James drove the Puritans out of the Netherlands in just  around 10  years  -   he had  nearly  50  years   in an open and free range   -  to  destroy and  pervert everything ,  of  any  goodness  and  decency    and anythimg  Godly  concerning any  righteous  influence that good  Puritans would have,      both  -   in the Church of England and also in the  Americas

King James and his administration did nothing for the Scriptures outside of changing the  4  disagreements his  Church held against the Church of Rome involving  =  =     Idols,   Mary,   Eucharist  and  Priests -  everything  else  -  outside  these  4  things,  King James and his administration  left exactly as the Roman Catholic Douay  Rheims  Catholic  Translators had translated  -   for his  K.J.V.

 

 

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it is foolishness and ignorance to think that the Catholic Church only altered the  original manuscritps concerning  Idols,   Mary,   Eucharist  and  Priests 

much more has been altered and changed and manipulated  -  and  K.J.V  is a  part  of  this  as the  King  James Translation

 

 

  the  JKV  is an  exact   word  for  word  exact  duplicate  copy   of  the  Catholic  English  Douay  Rheims translation of  1582.  word for word exactly in  99 %  of the translation.

in  99 %  of the translation the Church of England simply copied the Catholic Translation  strictly   "  word  for  word, exactly down to the very last dot  "      

'protestants then went in and modified and changed only a very few select passages to reflect what they believed how the Catholic Church was in error.   


If you were to take the Roman Catholic Douay Rheims Translation and the KJV  side by side and read them both,  you would not be able to tell any differences in  99.5  %   of the Bible.

the KJV is literally copied word of word exactly straight from the Catholic Translation. - word for word exactly /    identically, 


   The Church Of England had not broken away from the Catholic Church Of Rome  no less that a single generation  until the KJV was granted as a - Permit Bible    { A BIBLE PERMIT }    granted to the public -   authorized for the public to have,  that reflected the few changes that the Church Of England had disagreed with,   -  

 just less than 30 years previously broken from Rome

not even, 30 years had passed form the time of the separation from Rome  -      and here, the English government is literally copying word for word exactly from the Douay Rheims word for word, identically and exactly, chapter and verse.  

The JKV translators ONLY were concerned,  ONLY  interested about changing and altering and fixing the doctorial differences in specifically, centralizing and orbiting around -   IDOLS,  MARY, EUCHARIST  and  TRANSUBSTANTIATION,  PRIESTS  

 - everything else, the KJV copied exactly the same as the Douay Rheims   -as  if  the  Catholic  Church  would  only  misrepresent  these  4  areas  alone

the  truth  is  the  entire  Trinitarian  Translation  has  been  manipulated  and  perverterd  on  many,  many  levels and are not  limited to  what   PROTESTANTS  disagree  with  concerning   Catholic  doctrines .

 

this  is the deception  that  Protestants  seek  to  present  to  the  world  -  and  what  the  King  James  Version  was  all  about  - to  tell the  world  that  the  Catholic  Translation  was  incorrect  only  in  these   4  things,  ALONE

 

  Romes    involvment  =  =     Idols,   Mary,   Eucharist  and  Priests 

everything  else  -  outside  these  4  things,  King James and his administration  left exactly as the Roman Catholic Douay  Rheims  Catholic  Translators had translated  -   for his  K.J.V.

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the christian would not contribute money to propigate such translations 

one seeking truth simply can look at the original manuscripts and see the glaring differences 

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are we to honestly believe that Roman Catholicism was only interested in changing and altering   4  topics  for  nearly   2000  years   ? 

nearly  2000  years  of  Catholic  silence  and  prohibition  of   Scriptural  translation

 

suddenly,  the  Church  of  England  breaks  away  and  only  makes  corrections  to  4  topics  that  are  in  disagreement  to  the   the  Church  of  England

 

Trinitarians  will   not  even  have  a   honest   discussion  about  anything   from  the  manuscripts   outside   of  these  4  topics  that  are  in  disagreement  to  the   the  Church  of  England

 

what  can  I  do   
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10 hours ago, Blendrainer0o said:

the  JKV  is an  exact   word  for  word  exact  duplicate  copy   of  the  Catholic  English  Douay  Rheims translation of  1582.  word for word exactly in  99 %  of the translation

By jkv I assume  you mean the King James version of the bible.

 

That what you have posted about the douray-rhiems bible is total nonsense as shown by this quote:-

. It was completed in 1609, making it older than the KJV, which was not published until 1611. The fact that the Rheims New Testament was published in 1582 meant that it appeared almost thirty years before the KJV New Testament.from

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?id=4300

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yes, you are correct     -    "  Who me  " 

I thank you for responding to my comment.

Please accept my apology for not making myself clear, I never intended to inject confusion

the  later JKV  -    is an  exact   word  for  word  exact  duplicate  copy   of  the  previous Catholic  English  Douay  Rheims translation of  1582.

 

 word for word exactly in around  roughly   96.6    %  --   99  %   of  the  translation 

  protestants then went in and modified and changed only a very few select passages to reflect what they believed how the Catholic Church was in error.  

 
If you were to take the Roman Catholic Douay Rheims Translation and the KJV  side by side and read them both,  you would not be able to tell any differences in  96.6  %   of the translation.

 
   The Church Of England had not broken away from the Catholic Church Of Rome  no less that a single generation  until the KJV was granted as a - Permit Bible    { A BIBLE PERMIT }    granted to the public -   authorized for the public to have,  that simply reflected the very few minor changes that the Church Of England had disagreed with,   - 

just 77 years previously having broken from Rome

  77 years had passed from the time of the separation from Rome  -      and here, the English government then produced the King James

The JKV translators ONLY were concerned,  ONLY  interested about changing and altering and fixing the doctorial differences, in specifically, centralizing and orbiting around -   IDOLS,  MARY,  EUCHARIST  and  TRANSUBSTANTIATION,  PRIESTS    

 everything else, the  KJV  is translated exactly the same as the Douay Rheims.

this means that Protestants believe that the Catholic Translation was only  mistranslating and in error regarding / concerning    -  Idols,   Mary,   Eucharist  Transubstantiation   and   Priests . 

meaning the Catholic Church only concentrated upon these  4  topics for misrepresenting the original message of the manuscripts.

 

 

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