WilliamL Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,153 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,568 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, farouk said: (But I know the anti-vacc. theme is set to run and run.....) As is the government-financed and media propaganda, which is vastly better financed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,153 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,568 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted December 17, 2023 41 minutes ago, Marathoner said: the armed forces have been missing their recruitment goals for several years in a row, brother. Which is why the powers-that-be are promoting a great SOLUTION to this problem: recruit lots of recent immigrants into the military! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted December 17, 2023 2 hours ago, farouk said: I don't see the connection between shooting crazes and Covid. Presumably one doesn't get much warning about shooting crazes, but for Covid avoidance there is medical evidence. (But I know the anti-vacc. theme is set to run and run.....) Naturally you don't. But it's there. Because it's absurd to blame a liberal for not carrying a gun for the actions of another. Completely absurd. You can't blame him because a guy shot up a school, he's not responsible for that shooters actions. Its equally absurd to hold a anti vaxxer responsible for someone else's death by COVID. They have a right to their view, they have a right to share that view. It's up to each individual to take the evidence at hand and decide whether to get the vaccine or not, and deal with the consequences thereof. If they chose to listen to the anti vaxer then that's on them. Holding the anti vaxxer responsible for someone else's choice is absurd. We should be encouraging people to make educated choices which involves researching all sides of the equation and making an informed choice from there. Blaming death on the opposing parties view, isnt encouraging making a informed choice, it's encouraging tyranny. Hold people accountable for their own choices, don't blame it on others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, WilliamL said: Which is why the powers-that-be are promoting a great SOLUTION to this problem: recruit lots of recent immigrants into the military! That's nothing new. Foreign nationals have served in the U.S. Armed forces for a long time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2023 I find it ironic that some descendants of immigrants harbor such hatred for immigrants that they're willing to portray them as less deserving than they themselves are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,330 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,356 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2023 Off-topic, so here's an answer to rhetoric about immigrants serving in the U.S. Armed Forces. Since 2003, 148,000 immigrants have served in the U.S. military. In order to do so, an immigrant must be a permanent U.S. resident (have a "green card"). It's one path to eventual citizenship. Immigrants have served in every major war in U.S. history, starting with the Revolutionary War until the present day. Just the truth. I suppose this ties in to this topic about vaccine confusion in some way. Anyway, end of off-topic report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Marathoner said: Off-topic, so here's an answer to rhetoric about immigrants serving in the U.S. Armed Forces. Since 2003, 148,000 immigrants have served in the U.S. military. In order to do so, an immigrant must be a permanent U.S. resident (have a "green card"). It's one path to eventual citizenship. Immigrants have served in every major war in U.S. history, starting with the Revolutionary War until the present day. Just the truth. I suppose this ties in to this topic about vaccine confusion in some way. Anyway, end of off-topic report. Unfortunately the truth of the matter is with the border crisis at the border it's a hot topic, and people are reacting emotionally on both sides of the issue, and while passion can be a good thing, it can also be bad because it causes us to ignore the facts. Ironically the border crisis isnt just the democrats or the republicans fault, it's a joint effort of blame. Democrats want to let anyone in, Republicans want to control who comes in and the end result is we have made it extremely difficult for the common folk to migrate to the US legally, while not enforcing the borders, which causes all these people who are desperate just to get food for their families to turn to cartels, human traffickers, or anyone who can help them get across to what they hope to be a better life. It's a bad system all around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anne2 Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,499 Content Per Day: 1.47 Reputation: 622 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/29/2021 Status: Offline Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, The_Patriot21 said: Unfortunately the truth of the matter is with the border crisis at the border it's a hot topic, and people are reacting emotionally on both sides of the issue, and while passion can be a good thing, it can also be bad because it causes us to ignore the facts. Ironically the border crisis isnt just the democrats or the republicans fault, it's a joint effort of blame. Democrats want to let anyone in, Republicans want to control who comes in and the end result is we have made it extremely difficult for the common folk to migrate to the US legally, while not enforcing the borders, which causes all these people who are desperate just to get food for their families to turn to cartels, human traffickers, or anyone who can help them get across to what they hope to be a better life. It's a bad system all around. Ironic. Military dismissing their own for not getting vaccine. Make soldiers of immigrants who have no vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted December 17, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 27 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,715 Content Per Day: 2.45 Reputation: 8,535 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted December 17, 2023 20 minutes ago, Anne2 said: Ironic. Military dismissing their own for not getting vaccine. Make soldiers of immigrants who have no vaccine. Not true. This is a prime example of people arguing with emotions and not facts. While it's true the military has been using immigrants, which like Marathon has pointed out, they always have, it's not true they're unvaccinated. Furthermore these immigrants are all legal-theyre not the ones who are streaming across the border legally, but rather immigrants who are seeking legal citizenship. And they are subject to all the same rules and requirements soldiers who are already citizens are-in that they are all vaccinated, or at least were when the vaccines were required. So the claim that the military kicked out soldiers with refused vaccines and replaced them with immigrants who were not vaccinated, is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Anne2 said: Ironic. Military dismissing their own for not getting vaccine. Make soldiers of immigrants who have no vaccine. That's what I heard about illegal immigrants too, since I had read reports that they were allowed into the country not needing to be vaccinated while they practically had guns to heads of U.S citizens to be vaccinated or fired from just about every where, whether that was encouraged and enforced in the civilian sector or the Military sector. So I think it was easy to believe that was the case. I would love to recall the sources, or even go back and dig for those sources but I can't stand clicking through any of our news sites and scratching through it all anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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