The Mormon Faith

[piston priest]

Not in heaven, in prison. All that verse in 1 Peter says is He went to proclaim a message there. It says nothing that He preached for their salvation. As I understood it, He told them of the victory over sin. In fact, the greek word means to herald, announce, not preach as in evangelize.

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Spirit prison is where those that have not had the opportunity to hear the gospel on earth can hear it in the hereafter. And if that word does mean announce, rather than preach, I'm not sure it does, then it is a mistranslation.

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Or the real answer, you follow a religion that is based on false doctrine.

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Or, we are following the real gospel, and you are blinded to the truth.

[Ovedya]

Piston, I'd like to request that you first address the post I made here:

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530424

And then I would like to ask you a couple of questions about the presidents of the LDS organization and how Mormons view them.

[piston priest]

Piston, I'd like to request that you first address the post I made here:

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530424

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I'm not really sure how to respond to them. I don't even know if it is true. If it is, I don't think it's anything to fret over. Christianity has stolen various practices from other religions. December 25, Christmas for example. That date was originally a pagan holiday. The fish symbol was also pagan.

The cliche picture of God with a white beard and rippling muscles was taken from Zeus of Greek Mythology.

Who knows, maybe the freemasons had some things right, but I honestly don't know, so I might be answering this wrong.

[Ovedya]

Piston, I'd like to request that you first address the post I made here:

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530424

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I'm not really sure how to respond to them. I don't even know if it is true. If it is, I don't think it's anything to fret over. Christianity has stolen various practices from other religions. December 25, Christmas for example. That date was originally a pagan holiday. The fish symbol was also pagan.

The cliche picture of God with a white beard and rippling muscles was taken from Zeus of Greek Mythology.

Who knows, maybe the freemasons had some things right, but I honestly don't know, so I might be answering this wrong.

So it does not bother you at all that the LDS essentially practices a form of Freemasonry?

Next, do you as Mormon believe that Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young, and all the presidents of the LDS, are prophets in the same sense that the prophets of the Old testament were? Are they different somehow? Also, do you believe that their teachings are always on-par with the Bible, and should be treated as the gospel truth?

[ayin jade]

Plus, I've answered most of AJs posts, not everyone because I have better things to do than run down people's religion every minute of every day.

Most of my posts?

Here are some posts you have not addressed. Some of which I asked specific questions that you ignored. 18 posts that you have not addressed (unless I counted wrong lol).

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=527293

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=527304

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526508

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526787

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526788

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526790

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526809

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526811

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526812

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526813

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526814

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526815

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=526786

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=529996

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530471

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530486

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530489

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530500

[Guest yod]

I've heard people say that his translation does not match up, but I don't know what anti-mormons to believe. Some say he did not translate them right, others say the parchments don't even exist. Enemies of the church can't get their story straight.

first of all I am not "anti-mormon" nor do I consider myself an enemy of your "church"

I am "pro-truth" and that is my only concern...what is true.

But now that we can correctly interpret ancient eygptian writings, we know that Joseph Smith didn't get a single word right. This is the very foundation of your "church"

Since your "church" claims to be a newer revelation than our "church", it would seem that your "church" would be able to stand the same scrutiny our "church" does.

But instead you circle the wagons and refuse to answer the objections.

not good, bro, not good...."if" you are seeking the truth instead of self-justification.

[Guest yod]

I'll admit, I don't think the Bible ever says or even hints that Jesus and Satan are brothers. But, like I've been saying, modern revelations allows us to know things that other faiths do not.

In the Holy Bible, Satan is a fallen angel. A created being.

Yeshua is not...it is therefore IMPOSSIBLE that they could be brothers are the round-table of heaven.

You also said that eating the fruit was a bad thing. In order to accept that version, one must assume that God is not all knowing and because of what Adam and Eve did, He was forced to make changes to his plan.

That "version" is explained to be a bad circumstance for the human race throughout the Holy Bible.

Are you saying that God changed His mind because He was caught by surprise?

There is no "Plan B". God knows and has always known what would happen when man was given free will

Yeshua was the answer.

Not your "jesus" but the one of the Holy Bible

[piston priest]

Piston, I'd like to request that you first address the post I made here:

http://www.worthyboards.com/index.php?s=&s...ndpost&p=530424

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I'm not really sure how to respond to them. I don't even know if it is true. If it is, I don't think it's anything to fret over. Christianity has stolen various practices from other religions. December 25, Christmas for example. That date was originally a pagan holiday. The fish symbol was also pagan.

The cliche picture of God with a white beard and rippling muscles was taken from Zeus of Greek Mythology.

Who knows, maybe the freemasons had some things right, but I honestly don't know, so I might be answering this wrong.

So it does not bother you at all that the LDS essentially practices a form of Freemasonry?

Next, do you as Mormon believe that Joseph Smith Jr., Brigham Young, and all the presidents of the LDS, are prophets in the same sense that the prophets of the Old testament were? Are they different somehow? Also, do you believe that their teachings are always on-par with the Bible, and should be treated as the gospel truth?

Like I said, I don't know much about freemasonry or why people think it is bad. I also don't know what practices my church has that are the same as the free masons.

As far as the prophets go, yes, they are similar to the Old Testament prophets. Even though their teachings sometimes conflict with the Bible, I still believe them to be servants of God. I've been told that what the prophet says should be considered as gospel, but I don't necessarilly feel that way. Joseph Smith once said that a prophet is only a prophet when acting as such. This means that if a prophet is not in the right spiritual mindset to receive divine revelations, he may get them wrong.

[piston priest]

I've heard people say that his translation does not match up, but I don't know what anti-mormons to believe. Some say he did not translate them right, others say the parchments don't even exist. Enemies of the church can't get their story straight.

first of all I am not "anti-mormon" nor do I consider myself an enemy of your "church"

I am "pro-truth" and that is my only concern...what is true.

But now that we can correctly interpret ancient eygptian writings, we know that Joseph Smith didn't get a single word right. This is the very foundation of your "church"

Since your "church" claims to be a newer revelation than our "church", it would seem that your "church" would be able to stand the same scrutiny our "church" does.

But instead you circle the wagons and refuse to answer the objections.

not good, bro, not good...."if" you are seeking the truth instead of self-justification.

I did not mean Anti-Mormon in a derogatory way. If you do not agree with the Mormon faith, that technically makes you anti-mormon because you oppose them. But it was probably a bad choice of words on my part.

[piston priest]

That "version" is explained to be a bad circumstance for the human race throughout the Holy Bible.

Are you saying that God changed His mind because He was caught by surprise?

There is no "Plan B". God knows and has always known what would happen when man was given free will

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I don't think God changed His mind. That is why the fall was a good thing. It gave men free will. By saying it was bad, that means God did not expect it and had to change the rules. There was no plan B. It was God's will that Adam and Eve eat of the forbidden fruit. Otherwise, mortality would have never entered the world.