FreeGrace Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,415 Content Per Day: 8.22 Reputation: 609 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22 26 minutes ago, Charlie744 said: If you do not mind, I would like to offer a different interpretation on these verses… I have to go right now. Thanks. Looking forward to it when you get the chance. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,117 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted February 22 4 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said: the earlier interpretations insisting antiochus is the king of the north were false. There was only one spirit-king of the north, but it possessed a whole lot of human kings of the north. And the most important human one is still to come. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamL Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 5,117 Content Per Day: 1.48 Reputation: 2,555 Days Won: 4 Joined: 11/06/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/01/1950 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Charlie744 said: I don’t see anything in Daniel that refers to Antiochus, the Ptolemy’s, the Seleucid's, etc. Would you mind telling me what verses in Daniel speak to Antiochus? Daniel 11:21-31; 8:9-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Charlie744 said: FG, if you do not mind, it is my pleasure that there are only 4 kingdoms that are symbolized by the metal man image. And this is reinforced by Daniel in chapter 7 and other chapters. Antiochus, as well as the folks that came after the death of Alexander and the time his 4 generals were given portions of his kingdom came between the 3rd kingdom of Greece and the 4th kingdom of Rome. I don’t see anything in Daniel that refers to Antiochus, the Ptolemy’s, the Seleucid's, etc. Would you mind telling me what verses in Daniel speak to Antiochus? Thanks, Charlie None of Daniel's prophecy referred to antiochus. It was a false doctrine that referred to antiochus.A false doctrine written long ago by either a Hellenistic Jew or unknown authors who believed they had unsealed the meaning of Daniels end time prophecy thousands of years before end times. They were led to believe the end times were in 164 BC .It was never ment for anyone to understand daniels prophecy untill end times when they are fulfilled. Daniel 12 8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. One good reason the wicked can not understand is they have been deceived into believing the prophecy has already been fulfilled so they don't watch as Jesus has commanded us in the gospel. There are many deceivers in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, FreeGrace said: I don't have to when others make a thread about me. :) Keep missing the point, I see. Antiochus fulfilled the Daniel prophecy. All one needs to do is know when Daniel wrote the prophecy and know when Antiochus fulfilled it. But so what? The end times beast (A/C) will do the same. Your point here? Scroll up a bit. That's what I said. Anyone familiar with Daniels prophecy concerning the abomination that causes desolation know that antiochus nor the end times king of the north place the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem. But you don't learn that from commentaries and false doctrine.You can only learn that by paying attention to the word of God of as written by the prophet Daniel. PS The king of the north is not qualified to handle the abomination that causes desolation. Edited February 22 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,415 Content Per Day: 8.22 Reputation: 609 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22 51 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: Anyone familiar with Daniels prophecy concerning the abomination that causes desolation know that antiochus nor the end times king of the north place the abomination that causes desolation in Jerusalem. But you don't learn that from commentaries and false doctrine.You can only learn that by paying attention to the word of God of as written by the prophet Daniel. How come you haven't shared ANY verse that actually supports your dogmatic claims? 51 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said: PS The king of the north is not qualified to handle the abomination that causes desolation. Did you interview him? How do you know that? What I see from your posts is just a lot of dogmatic statements and NO verses that back them up. btw, are you ever going to explain where the souls of believers go when they die? You have claimed that NO HUMAN has ever gone to heaven, and I refuted that with clear Scripture. Are you as able to admit a mistake as I have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RdJ Posted February 22 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,090 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/11/2015 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/25/1970 Share Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, FreeGrace said: Did you interview him? How do you know that? I thought the king of the North was Putin or someone who comes after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22 32 minutes ago, FreeGrace said: How come you haven't shared ANY verse that actually supports your dogmatic claims? Did you interview him? How do you know that? What I see from your posts is just a lot of dogmatic statements and NO verses that back them up. btw, are you ever going to explain where the souls of believers go when they die? You have claimed that NO HUMAN has ever gone to heaven, and I refuted that with clear Scripture. Are you as able to admit a mistake as I have? The prophet Daniel wrote about the abomination of desolation not being placed by the king of the north.Perhaps it's time for you to read the prophecy itself and avoid false doctrine. Then you can learn the truth. As for who has ascended to heaven.Ive already quoted who has ascended into heaven.The high priest has entered into the most holy place.How many high priests do you have that you believe have entered the most holy of holies? Mathew 22:44 The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool” ’? How many Lords do you have that you say they all sit at the right hand of God? .Scripture shows only one who has ascended into heaven to God that I know of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilohsfoal Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 153 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 5,881 Content Per Day: 2.47 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/22/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted February 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, FreeGrace said: Did you interview him? How do you know that? Because I know what it is. I've read the book of Daniel and I know who place it in Jerusalem. I've also read the Olivet discourse and the book of revelation that describe its effects .I've seen videos of it and have seen what it does.The aftermath and the pain and suffering it causes. Few people understand,It's an Israeli option that is called to be used. Edited February 22 by Shilohsfoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted February 22 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,415 Content Per Day: 8.22 Reputation: 609 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Renskedejonge said: 1 hour ago, FreeGrace said: Did you interview him? How do you know that? I thought the king of the North was Putin or someone who comes after him. I'm hoping Shilohsfoal will answer my question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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