The History Of Easter

[Vine Abider]

10 minutes ago, other one said:

I'd go along with that, and drop the bunnies and eggs.

I'm with you bro!  Here's a wild idea: Perhaps someone could come up with an all-inclusive pagan symbol/entity for all the holidays.  This would combine rabbits, eggs, a fat man in a red suit, etc.  Then throw in some Halloween weirdness - what would that look like? 

Is there anything else that should be thrown in for good measure?  (@enoob57 perhaps you could come up with something creative along those lines)

[Jedi4Yahweh]

Then add in the fact that Jesus could not have been raised on easter Sunday morning given the following:  If he was crucified on good Friday and buried that night.  That would make Saturday night the first full day in the tomb.  Sunday night would be the 2nd full day in the tomb.  Monday night would be the third full day in the tomb.  

Otherwise that would make the following quote from Jesus inaccurate:

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [Mat 12:40 KJV]

 

 

Edited March 22 by Jedi4Yahweh

[Marathoner]

56 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

I'm with you bro!  Here's a wild idea: Perhaps someone could come up with an all-inclusive pagan symbol/entity for all the holidays.  This would combine rabbits, eggs, a fat man in a red suit, etc.  Then throw in some Halloween weirdness - what would that look like? 

Sure thing. Slap a calendar on the wall and write the following in English, Spanish, German, Japanese, Finnish, Koine Greek, Swahili, and Cantonese:

"This is a pagan language."

There you go. 

[enoob57]

8 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I'm with you bro!  Here's a wild idea: Perhaps someone could come up with an all-inclusive pagan symbol/entity for all the holidays.  This would combine rabbits, eggs, a fat man in a red suit, etc.  Then throw in some Halloween weirdness - what would that look like? 

Is there anything else that should be thrown in for good measure?  (@enoob57 perhaps you could come up with something creative along those lines)

now why on earth when weirdness come into the conversation you'd think of me  

[ladypeartree]

actually I thought he was going to say ..throw enoob into it to make it totally weird  

[Your closest friendnt]

On 3/21/2024 at 10:01 PM, Vine Abider said:

I'm with you bro!  Here's a wild idea: Perhaps someone could come up with an all-inclusive pagan symbol/entity for all the holidays.  This would combine rabbits, eggs, a fat man in a red suit, etc.  Then throw in some Halloween weirdness - what would that look like? 

Is there anything else that should be thrown in for good measure?  (@enoob57 perhaps you could come up with something creative along those lines)

I don't understand why you like to make jokes for the Pasover Holiday. The Muslim people they respect other people's religious Holidays and most of them they do not make jokes like that. But then you are not alone in this.

Don't you know that Jesus told the disciples to continiou celebrating the Passover but with a new twist. The Jewish believers never stopped celebrating the Passover together with the ethnic believers who joined them and they wanted to experience the last supper Jesus had with the disciples and the good news of his resurrection and of course it must have included his death on the Cross. Without the story of his death on the Cross how can we celebrate the resurrection. 

Edited March 23 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

On 3/21/2024 at 10:22 PM, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Then add in the fact that Jesus could not have been raised on easter Sunday morning given the following:  If he was crucified on good Friday and buried that night.  That would make Saturday night the first full day in the tomb.  Sunday night would be the 2nd full day in the tomb.  Monday night would be the third full day in the tomb.  

Otherwise that would make the following quote from Jesus inaccurate:

For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [Mat 12:40 KJV]

 

 

Why don't begin to count from Friday as the first day because he died before the start of Saturday. And he was raised Sunday. Three days, their days started at six in the evening. Jesus died three hours before the end of Friday and after 24 hour at 6 in the evening Sunday started and at about down on Sunday Jesus was raised from the dead. If you want to know the specific time of his resurrection need to asked the Roman soldiers who kept watch and witness the resurrection.  They were not there when the women arrived. We only are told that early in the morning when they women arrive there the tomb was empty. 

Edited March 23 by Your closest friendnt

[Jedi4Yahweh]

9 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Why don't begin to count from Friday as the first day because he died before the start of Saturday. And he was raised Sunday. Three days, their days started at six in the evening. Jesus died three hours before the end of Friday and after 24 hour at 6 in the evening Sunday started and at about down on Sunday Jesus was raised from the dead. If you want to know the specific time of his resurrection need to asked the Roman soldiers who kept watch and witness the resurrection.  They were not there when the women arrived. We only are told that early in the morning when they women arrive there the tomb was empty. 

Because Jesus had to be dead and buried for 3 full days according to his own words: 3 days and 3 nights (For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [Mat 12:40 KJV]) and not partial days as you seem to suggest.  So according to easter tradition he was placed in the tomb on Friday evening, so Saturday evening would be the first full day, Sunday evening the second full day, Monday evening the 3rd full day. 

 

 

[JohnD]

On 3/20/2024 at 4:36 PM, Michael37 said:

1. Historical Roots:

   • The earliest recorded observance of Easter dates back to the 2nd century. However, the commemoration of Jesus’ Resurrection likely occurred even earlier.
   • The English word “Easter” parallels the German term “Ostern.” Its origin is uncertain, but there are two prevailing views:
     • Anglo-Saxon Goddess: The Venerable Bede (8th century) suggested that it derived from Eostre or Eostrae, the Anglo-Saxon goddess of spring and fertility. This view assumes that Christians appropriated pagan names and holidays for their own festivals.
     • Christian Designation: A more widely accepted view is that the word comes from the Christian designation of Easter week as in albis, a Latin phrase understood as the plural of alba (meaning “dawn”). In Old High German, this became eostarum, which eventually led to the modern German and English term.
   • The Latin and Greek word “Pascha” (meaning “Passover”) also contributes to the French term “Pâques” for Easter.
2. Matthew Henry's Notes: Act 12:4-5 KJV And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter  (Gr. pascha) to bring him forth to the people.  (5)  Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.
    4. Here is an account of Peter's imprisonment (Act_12:4): When he had laid hands on him, and, it is likely, examined him, he put him in prison, into the inner prison; some say, into the same prison into which he and the other apostles were cast some years before, and were rescued out of it by an angel, Act_5:18. He was delivered to four quaternions of soldiers, that is, to sixteen, who were to be a guard upon him, four at a time, that he should not make his escape, nor be rescued by his friends. Thus they thought they had him fast. 5. Herod's design was, after Easter, to bring him forth unto the people. (1.) He would make a spectacle of him. Probably he had put James to death privately, which the people had complained of, not because it was an unjust thing to put a man to death without giving him a public hearing, but because it deprived them of the satisfaction of seeing him executed; and therefore Herod, now he knows their minds, will gratify them with the sight of Peter in bonds, of Peter upon the block, that they may feed their eyes with such a pleasing spectacle. And very ambitious surely he was to please the people who was willing thus to please them! (2.) He would do this after Easter, meta to pascha - after the passover, certainly so it ought to be read, for it is the same word that is always so rendered; and to insinuate the introducing of a gospel-feast, instead of the passover, when we have nothing in the New Testament of such a thing, is to mingle Judaism with our Christianity. Herod would not condemn him till the passover was over, some think, for fear lest he should have such an interest among the people that they should demand the release of him, according to the custom of the feast: or, after the hurry of the feast was over, and the town was empty, he would entertain them with Peter's public trial and execution. Thus was the plot laid, and both Herod and the people long to have the feast over, that they may gratify themselves with this barbarous entertainment.

Astarte / Easter (like Christ Mass / Christmas) are evidences of paganism brought into the realm by Roman Catholicism = the ongoing compromised Church.

[JohnD]

The one memorial Jesus actually commissioned until he returns is his death (Passover Seder).

Otherwise, if we wanted to keep holidays that actually point to Jesus we would keep the Jewish high

holy days.