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No, I can't believe Jesus was fully human and fully God, that would nullify the ransom because the ransom one would have to be fully human as Adam. Besides he would have to fully die. Yet the scrips states God Never ceased to  exist.

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1 Jn 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jn 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they bethrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;

That's why it's a mystery. I Ti 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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On 7/24/2024 at 8:44 AM, Know Jah said:

No, I can't believe Jesus was fully human and fully God, that would nullify the ransom because the ransom one would have to be fully human as Adam. Besides he would have to fully die. Yet the scrips states God Never ceased to  exist.

James 2:26 defines death


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On 6/28/2024 at 6:18 PM, Daniel Marsh said:

Is Jesus omniscient and omnipotent???

Well if Jesus is God then he has to be. And I'm not saying that in a flipping way I'm saying that by very nature he would have to be both omission and omnipotent now the owl has a point and it's something that's much debated but I don't think this its capable that if he is God he is but omniscient and omnipotent

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On 6/28/2024 at 6:18 PM, Daniel Marsh said:

Is Jesus omniscient and omnipotent???

Of course He is: He is the Logos that created everything. 

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17 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Of course He is: He is the Logos that created everything. 

Of course states a belief and not a truth. 

Can you define your understanding of both omniscient and omnipotent please? 

And then make your point in support of your statement please. 

And please you said that he is the Logos, and what is that?  Because the Logos was before everything was Created and thar by your own words "He created everything " which is telling us that he can not be in the body of Adam, can He? Is it possible? 

Because with God many things are possible and that can be abused to support things God never said or promised. 

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35 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Of course states a belief and not a truth. 

Can you define your understanding of both omniscient and omnipotent please? 

And then make your point in support of your statement please. 

The question as presented asks (unless the presenter otherwise clarifies to the contrary) whether the current status of Jesus Christ is omniscient and omnipotent. This seems clear by use of the word "Is". 

I say not only is Jesus currently omniscient and omnipotent, (see, Matthew 28:18 wherein Jesus says "All power" is given unto him), but Jesus was omniscient and omnipotent before He left His rightful place in Heaven to take on flesh in order to reconcile man to God. See, John 1:1 "the Word was God."

While Jesus was in His manly flesh, even though He was also fully God, He only knew, and His power was limited to, that which that Father revealed to Him in order to accomplish the will of the Father. See, Matthew 26:36-42, Jesus agonizing in Gethsemane, praying to the Father, "thy will be done."  

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On 7/24/2024 at 8:44 AM, Know Jah said:

No, I can't believe Jesus was fully human and fully God, that would nullify the ransom because the ransom one would have to be fully human as Adam. Besides he would have to fully die. Yet the scrips states God Never ceased to  exist.

Friend, I suggest that you read the Gospel of Mark through in one sitting. Notice all the verses that demonstrate Jesus' divine abilities like reading people's minds, for example, and his many miracles. Also, take note of the evidence of his humanity. He could completely die for our ransom as fully human and fully rise from the dead as completely divine. Both full natures are mysteriously combined in one Person, the second Person of God with the Father and the Holy Spirit as the ONE God, also a divine Mystery. May that God bless you abundantly. Your friend, newbie Bruce_Leiter.  

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48 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

The question as presented asks (unless the presenter otherwise clarifies to the contrary) whether the current status of Jesus Christ is omniscient and omnipotent. This seems clear by use of the word "Is". 

I say not only is Jesus currently omniscient and omnipotent, (see, Matthew 28:18 wherein Jesus says "All power" is given unto him), but Jesus was omniscient and omnipotent before He left His rightful place in Heaven to take on flesh in order to reconcile man to God. See, John 1:1 "the Word was God."

While Jesus was in His manly flesh, even though He was also fully God, He only knew, and His power was limited to, that which that Father revealed to Him in order to accomplish the will of the Father. See, Matthew 26:36-42, Jesus agonizing in Gethsemane, praying to the Father, "thy will be done."  

I am studying your answer and we will continue.

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Of course states a belief and not a truth. 

Can you define your understanding of both omniscient and omnipotent please? 

And then make your point in support of your statement please. 

And please you said that he is the Logos, and what is that?  Because the Logos was before everything was Created and thar by your own words "He created everything " which is telling us that he can not be in the body of Adam, can He? Is it possible? 

Because with God many things are possible and that can be abused to support things God never said or promised. 

The beginning of the Gospel of John presents a mysterious truth: "In the beginning was the Word (Greek: Logos) and the Word was God and the Word was with God (John 1:1)." John goes on to say that God (the Father) made all things through the Word. Later in verse 14, he says that the Word became flesh and lived for a while among us. Based on this mysterious truth, Christians have rightly put their faith in the Father and Jesus as the first two Persons of the ONE God, who created the universe and humanity, and the third Person, the Holy Spirit (John 14, 15, and 16). 

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