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25 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

It has to do more with logic, and I know your not arguing but I didn't explain myself real well, so this is more about me then your reply.

But the thing is your right he's not controlled by the establishment and does a great job bucking them. It is one of the biggest things I do like about him, as the establishment is corrupt and evil.

But, that's a two edged sword. If he's not controlled by anyone he's also not accountable to anyone. And if you look at his attitude he doesn't feel he's accountable to anyone. if he can't be held accountable then the likelihood of him becoming corrupt is high.

So that is why I think his inability to be controlled is both is greatest strength, and his greatest weakness.

 

But he is accountable. That's the thing. Our form of government is designed to protect us from a wannabe dictator. A simple example is his lack of experience as a president but heavy experience as a CEO. He's used to calling all the shots. But the SCOTUS became a brick wall to a couple of things he tried. And I knew they would. 

He had to learn in his first term that he can't just do anything, and if he tries, he gets stopped by a different branch of our government. He can't pass laws, but he can sign them once approved by the legislative branch. And if he tries to, the judicial branch stops him. 

Just like it stopped biden when he tried to forgive all the student loans.


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7 hours ago, Still Alive said:

But he is accountable. That's the thing. Our form of government is designed to protect us from a wannabe dictator. A simple example is his lack of experience as a president but heavy experience as a CEO. He's used to calling all the shots. But the SCOTUS became a brick wall to a couple of things he tried. And I knew they would. 

He had to learn in his first term that he can't just do anything, and if he tries, he gets stopped by a different branch of our government. He can't pass laws, but he can sign them once approved by the legislative branch. And if he tries to, the judicial branch stops him. 

Just like it stopped biden when he tried to forgive all the student loans.

But is he though? His whole attitude is you can't control me, I can do what I want. That's what keeps him from being controlled. 

Yes there's rules in his place, but he doesn't hold to them any more then he has to. I mean let's be realistic, we all bashed on Obama for overusing executive orders, but trump used more of them then the previous 3 presidents combined. He doesn't behold himself to anyone.

The main reason the hardcore conservative crowd isn't calling him out on his behavior is so far, a lot of that overreach has been in their favor, so much so that the few things that weren't they just glossed over or ignored completely.

And a lot of that is likely because he wants to get elected again. If he gets elected for a second term, there will be no motivation to actually work for the good of the country other then his own moral character, because he knows there won't be a third term, so if he decides to go full on tyrant there's likely not much to stop him.


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10 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

But is he though? His whole attitude is you can't control me, I can do what I want. That's what keeps him from being controlled. 

Yes there's rules in his place, but he doesn't hold to them any more then he has to. I mean let's be realistic, we all bashed on Obama for overusing executive orders, but trump used more of them then the previous 3 presidents combined. He doesn't behold himself to anyone.

The main reason the hardcore conservative crowd isn't calling him out on his behavior is so far, a lot of that overreach has been in their favor, so much so that the few things that weren't they just glossed over or ignored completely.

And a lot of that is likely because he wants to get elected again. If he gets elected for a second term, there will be no motivation to actually work for the good of the country other then his own moral character, because he knows there won't be a third term, so if he decides to go full on tyrant there's likely not much to stop him.

Frankly, I see him as just like all other people elected to the presidency, at least in this one way. They want to do what they want to do. And as I think I may have said this in my previous post: Biden and even Obama had their hands slapped by the SCOTUS as well. I have no problem with a president pushing the limits like a two year old, only to be slapped back by the SCOTUS. In means they are trying. 

And often, when you get slapped back it often means you only have to tweak what you were trying to do, and that can make it completely constitutional. 

And yes, I think it is almost as likely when he's re-elected, except with his experience he gained last time, he'll be a bit more careful to ensure the necessary tweaks are done BEFORE they are done, so he doesn't get overturned.

BTW, though I'm a huge fan of Trump, I always get nervous about a leader being too popular. I did it with Reagan. And I find it interesting to ponder that when he is re-elected it could almost be described as the Beast's fatal head wound that was healed in Revelation 13. 

I don't get into all those tribulation period arguments any more. But I've read end times prophecy in the bible and simply watching and waiting. i.e. though I think about the Revelation 13 issue, it's something I'm watching for in Trump's case, rather than causing something so cryptically related to determine my vote. 

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