Charles Spurgeon Library Conference

[MichaelSnow]

Please see the video approved in" Videos" section under "Bibllical Topics"   The video is marked to begin at 37 min. and my question pertains to a little more than 5 minutes of that.

Any responses to the question are appreciated.

[MichaelSnow]

The question pertained to the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders who burned Spurgeon's sermons in protest to his stand against slavery, and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war.

Both, had then, and have now, no ears to hear words that confront their besetting sin.

“We are up to the hilt advocates for peace, and we earnestly war against war.  I wish that Christian men would insist more and more on the unrighteousness of war, believing that Christianity means no sword, no cannon, no bloodshed, and that, if a nation is driven to fight in its own defence, Christianity stands by to weep and to intervene as soon as possible, and not to join in the cruel shouts which celebrate an enemy’s slaughter. . . . Today, then, my brethren, I beg you to join with me in seeking renewal.”

From An All-Round Ministry, (Charles Spurgeon’s Annual Conference Addresses at the Pastors College), “A New Departure.”   [SIXTEENTH ANNUAL CONFERENCE, Spring 1880]

[farouk]

26 minutes ago, MichaelSnow said:

The question pertained to the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders who burned Spurgeon's sermons in protest to his stand against slavery, and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war.

Both, had then, and have now, no ears to hear words that confront their besetting sin.

“We are up to the hilt advocates for peace, and we earnestly war against war.  I wish that Christian men would insist more and more on the unrighteousness of war, believing that Christianity means no sword, no cannon, no bloodshed, and that, if a nation is driven to fight in its own defence, Christianity stands by to weep and to intervene as soon as possible, and not to join in the cruel shouts which celebrate an enemy’s slaughter. . . . Today, then, my brethren, I beg you to join with me in seeking renewal.”

From An All-Round Ministry, (Charles Spurgeon’s Annual Conference Addresses at the Pastors College), “A New Departure.”   [SIXTEENTH ANNUAL CONFERENCE, Spring 1880]

Sadly, Mrs. Spurgeon concluded after his death in 1892 that what killed her husband was disputes among baptist preachers.

[Sower]

58 minutes ago, MichaelSnow said:

The question pertained to the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders who burned Spurgeon's sermons in protest to his stand against slavery, and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war.

I like Spurgeon's writings, but defer to God's..
You can read this is in English and not German or Japanese....

Revelation 19

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Defeat of the Beast and False Prophet

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

[Michael37]

5 minutes ago, Sower said:

You can read this is in English and not German or Japanese....

Subtle .

[Sower]

41 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Subtle .

Brevity is the soul of wit.

[MichaelSnow]

6 hours ago, Sower said:

I like Spurgeon's writings, but defer to God's..
You can read this is in English and not German or Japanese....

Revelation 19

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

Defeat of the Beast and False Prophet

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

Which has nothing to do with the question put in the post, except this: we wait patiently for that final day, walking in the light of His word.  This is the eschatalogical  battle of the End.  It is the conclusion of what Scripture says in Romans:

Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. ²⁰ Therefore

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;...'

https://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2020/01/08/armageddon-and-the-book-of-revelation/

Too many X'ns use Holy Scripture to excuse  unfaithfulness to God's word.

Edited August 10, 2024 by MichaelSnow

[MichaelSnow]

6 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Subtle .

Or insulting.

[Michael37]

19 minutes ago, MichaelSnow said:

Too many X'ns use Holy Scripture to excuse  unfaithfulness to God's word.

Not you, we should conclude.

[Sower]

3 hours ago, MichaelSnow said:

Too many X'ns use Holy Scripture to excuse  unfaithfulness to God's word.

Edited 3 hours ago by MichaelSnow

What are X'ns? Haven't heard the term, nor how to reply.

Thank you Michael