Charles Spurgeon Library Conference

[Sower]

10 hours ago, Sower said:

What are X'ns? Haven't heard the term, nor how to reply.

Thank you Michael

Anybody else know what X'ns are?

[Michael37]

4 minutes ago, Sower said:

Anybody else know what X'ns are?

One of the generations . . . born between 1965 and 1980.

If not, some sort of secretive cult led by someone known only as X.

[Sower]

On 8/9/2024 at 10:51 PM, MichaelSnow said:

The question pertained to the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders who burned Spurgeon's sermons in protest to his stand against slavery, and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war.

I answered, showing only one example, at our Lord's return. He won't be turning the other cheek was my intention to show.
Throughout biblical history are many examples of biblical war. I'm aware it is an 'eschatological  battle' and not man's army.
Didn't know that would negate my point which I assumed you missed. I'll try harder next time to suit your question. And Discuss.

16 hours ago, MichaelSnow said:

Which has nothing to do with the question put in the post

Ok, fine. You are the theologian and for sure I am not. I listened to the entire video you posted. It was about two gentlemen discussing what they thought about other men. Too many nuances for me to gain the intended lesson. But thanks anyway.

Concerning modern war, I assume you're old enough to understand why I said you can read this is in English and not German or Japanese. Had we lost that war we probably would be speaking in German.

War is hell. It is a method since the beginning century to stop the bad guys from killing the good guys.
If you would ask a surviving combat veteran about war you will find out nobody hates war as much as they do.
The suicide rate among combat veterans is 22 every 24 hrs, almost one every hour.
Approximately 8,030 veterans kill themselves every year, more than 5,540 of whom are 50 or older.

It would be nice if everybody was a pacifist following the Lords will, I agree.
But if there is no other way, I will use lethal force to protect my family or loved ones, or a stranger.
That is why all countries have a police force.

16 hours ago, MichaelSnow said:

Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, “Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,” says the Lord. ²⁰ Therefore

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;...'

I do not try to harm another if I was harmed, but to stop another before he harms, like a terrorist. Not to avenge my hurt.
I have no problem giving food to someone hungry, or give him my coat when he is cold.
I do not encourage theft to allow someone to steal my tools of trade to pay for his drug addiction.

If I did not answer your questions, well I tried.
         "the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders.....and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war"

"evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon"   Sorry Michael, but to me Spurgeon is still just a man, and not God. A great man blessed with much wisdom and insight, but still a man like king Salomon was. They make mistakes just like you and me.

Thanks again, Michael.

PS. If I understand your use of the abbreviation ' X'ns ' correctly, the 'Generation X' were those being generally defined as people born from 1965 to 1980. I was born in the forties, right after WWII.
I do not consider myself a nominal Christian. Just forgiven and still running the race.

[Marathoner]

2 hours ago, Michael37 said:

One of the generations . . . born between 1965 and 1980.

If not, some sort of secretive cult led by someone known only as X.

I suspect that it is a pejorative label referring to nominal Christians based upon the context where it appears. I've encountered it before. 

Edited August 11, 2024 by Marathoner

[Michael37]

16 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

I suspect that it is a pejorative label referring to nominal Christians based upon the context where it appears. I've encountered it before. 

Ssssh! 

[Marathoner]

 

[MichaelSnow]

On 8/10/2024 at 9:37 AM, Sower said:

What are X'ns? Haven't heard the term, nor how to reply.

Thank you Michael

Simply short hand for Christian, X being the first letter of Christos.

[MichaelSnow]

9 hours ago, Marathoner said:

 

I have, as no one cares to address the topic.

[Sower]

On 8/10/2024 at 6:26 AM, MichaelSnow said:

Too many X'ns use Holy Scripture to excuse  unfaithfulness to God's word.

Your sum up of my lengthy post.
 

On 8/10/2024 at 6:31 AM, MichaelSnow said:

Or insulting.

If you choose take it that way, or can respond or refute my reply, called discussion, with different views/understandings.
You did not address any specific points I brought up other than try to correct my understanding of Revelation.

 

1 hour ago, MichaelSnow said:

I have, as no one cares to address the topic.

Could be we don't really understand your question, or maybe I just don't. I hung in there hoping you would make it clear.
And it appeared it was yourself that didn't care to address my responses.
I am sorry you have felt insulted. We're just sinners forgiven, trying not to judge other sinners, also forgiven.

Thanks again, Michael..

 

[Inquiring Mind]

On 8/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, MichaelSnow said:

On 8/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, MichaelSnow said:

“We are up to the hilt advocates for peace, and we earnestly war against war.  I wish that Christian men would insist more and more on the unrighteousness of war, believing that Christianity means no sword, no cannon, no bloodshed, and that, if a nation is driven to fight in its own defence, Christianity stands by to weep and to intervene as soon as possible, and not to join in the cruel shouts which celebrate an enemy’s slaughter. . . . Today, then, my brethren, I beg you to join with me in seeking renewal.”

 

I suppose that taken in context with the rest of the statement that by 'intervene' Spurgeon meant to protest war... even if driven to fight in your own defense???

 

On 8/9/2024 at 11:51 PM, MichaelSnow said:

The question pertained to the parallel  between American Christian slaveholders who burned Spurgeon's sermons in protest to his stand against slavery, and today's American evangelicals hiding from Spurgeon's clear stand against Christians shedding blood in war.

The Civil War situation was different from the many other wars we've fought and what we face today with some terrorist nations and hate groups bent on destroying us.  It should have been settled without bloodshed.  I'm not downplaying the difficulties of the slavery issue and it is sort of like the division problems we see today with the issue of socialism trying to take over.  Hopefully, the election of Trump will put that to rest.  But, concerning our existence being threatened by outsiders, pray, yes (didn't you watch the Alvin C. York story), but if you don't stand up to these people you're lining up to be victims. We have lived good, free lives because of those who were willing to stand up and the sacrifices they were willing to make.  Do you want to be a victim, do you think that's what Christianity means?  Jesus was a willing victim for our salvation; I don't think Christianity means rolling over for every evil under the sun.