Theistic Evolution

[BornAgain490]

2 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

It's no longer a hypothesis:

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/murchison-meteorite/

Abiotic amino acids are an observed fact.   But it's gone well beyond that.   

 

Sure, it's observable because man made a  laboratory condition from which to observe. Not so with the origin of life: God spoke things into existence. 

[The Barbarian]

5 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Sure, it's observable because man made a  laboratory condition from which to observe.

No.   They have been found in the interior of meteorites, including some amino acids that are not found in living things on Earth.  So Miller-Urey has been verified in nature.

6 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

Not so with the origin of life: God spoke things into existence. 

More precisely, the Earth brought forth living things, in accordance with His will.   He created the Earth to do just that.   Scientists are only beginning to verify the fact.

 

 

[BornAgain490]

10 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

No.   They have been found in the interior of meteorites, including some amino acids that are not found in living things on Earth.  So Miller-Urey has been verified in nature.

More precisely, the Earth brought forth living things, in accordance with His will.   He created the Earth to do just that.   Scientists are only beginning to verify the fact.

 

 

Go figure? Well, it makes perfect sense if all that you've said is true, because everything in nature, from meteorites to comets to Saturn's rings to the pomegranate and the river bank grape, is the result of God creative handiwork. 

Did you know that man shares some of his DNA with the animal world and the world's vegetation?  That figures, too, since it was God who created all things.  

[Diamond]

3 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Seems to me that it's pretty good evidence that Noah's flood was a real event, and not an allegory or a parable.

Noahs flood was a real flood and Noah was a real person. Just like Adam and Eve were real people in a real Garden of Eden.  Science & Time magazine use the words Adam, Eve & Eden for a reason.

“Mitochondrial Eve” refers to the most recent common matrilineal ancestor of all humans, traced through mitochondrial DNA.

“Y-chromosomal Adam” refers to the most recent common patrilineal ancestor, traced through the Y chromosome.

“Eden” is sometimes used metaphorically to describe a pristine or original state, often in discussions about human origins and early environments.

[Diamond]

37 minutes ago, BornAgain490 said:

. Did you know that man shares some of his DNA with the animal world and the world's vegetation?  That figures, too, since it was God who created all things.  

Genesis 1 27

So God created mankind in his own image,

in the image of God he created them;

male and female he created them.

It is interesting to study science to see when God made them male and female. Marriage is often used as a metaphor in the Bible to illustrate the relationship between Jesus and the Church.

[BornAgain490]

7 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Genesis 1 27

So God created mankind in his own image,

in the image of God he created them;

male and female he created them.

It is interesting to study science to see when God made them male and female. Marriage is often used as a metaphor in the Bible to illustrate the relationship between Jesus and the Church.

See also that he formed man and animal from the same dust of the ground.  Gen. 2:19 Hence we share DNA with the animal world. 

[Sparks]

 

8 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

 As you see, the Bible does not say the world was flooded.   It said the land was flooded, not the world. 

If the flood was local, why build a big boat and gather the animals, and all that over 100 years?  Why wouldn't God just tell Noah to hike out of the flood zone?

[The Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

If the flood was local

Evidence says it was regional.

1 hour ago, Sparks said:

why build a big boat and gather the animals, and all that over 100 years?

It is notable that all the animals in the area would fit into ark, with provisions for a year.   So it makes some sense.    And the remains of freshwater mollusks recovered from the sea date to about 7000 years ago.

And is seems to me that a hike, herding all those animals might be a bit of a problem.   

Anyway, it would greatly reduce the issues that deter creationists from building and stocking an ark and trying to keep it going for a year on the ocean.

 

[The Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Diamond said:

So God created mankind in his own image,

in the image of God he created them;

male and female he created them.

It is interesting to study science to see when God made them male and female. 

Both male and female are in His image.    Which tells us something important about what He means by "image."

 

[Sparks]

1 hour ago, The Barbarian said:

Evidence says it was regional.

No.  Evidence shows it was world-wide.  You call it the geologic column.