Theistic Evolution

[Diamond]

22 minutes ago, Sparks said:

Jesus died 2024 years ago on the cross.

y2k2 strikes again. Jesus went to Calvary in 29 AD on the day before Passover. The church began 50 days later on the day of Pentecost when Peter was preaching in the upper room. I believe the church age is exactly 2,000 years to the anniversary of the church will be on passover in the year 2029.  NASA talks about a comet on that day. Then 7 years later Apophis comes back around again in 2036. 

Apophis is about 1,100 feet (340 meters) in width. It's expected to safely pass close to Earth – within 19,794 miles (31,860 kilometers) from our planet's surface – on April 13, 2029. This will be the closest approach to Earth by an asteroid of this size that scientists have known about in advance.

Again it is speculation how we transition from the church age to the kingdom age. 

[Sparks]

4 minutes ago, Diamond said:

Something has to end in order for something to begin. There were many many beginnings with Adam and Eve. As the church age ends and we transition to the Kingdom age there is a lot of speculation on how that is going to happen. 

In Christian theology, Jesus is often referred to as the “Lamb of God,” symbolizing his role as a sacrificial offering for humanity’s sins. The “Lion of Judah” represents his return in power and glory, as a king and conqueror.

I really don't understand where you are going with this.  How did you arrive at 6,000 years ago for Jesus death for 'Adam's Transgressions?'

I guess in a technical since, people today still inherit Adam's sins, and Adam brought death to us because of his sin.  We die now, because he sinned.  We are born into sin, and Jesus paid our sin debts on the cross because we have plenty of our sins.   All we must do is accept Jesus' gift of salvation to be saved.

Also, once again, how do you know the universe is billions of years old?

[Sparks]

3 hours ago, Diamond said:

y2k2 strikes again. Jesus went to Calvary in 29 AD on the day before Passover. The church began 50 days later on the day of Pentecost when Peter was preaching in the upper room. I believe the church age is exactly 2,000 years to the anniversary of the church will be on passover in the year 2029.  NASA talks about a comet on that day. Then 7 years later Apophis comes back around again in 2036. 

Apophis is about 1,100 feet (340 meters) in width. It's expected to safely pass close to Earth – within 19,794 miles (31,860 kilometers) from our planet's surface – on April 13, 2029. This will be the closest approach to Earth by an asteroid of this size that scientists have known about in advance.

Again it is speculation how we transition from the church age to the kingdom age. 

I really cannot follow your reasoning. 

Why do you speculate it is the year 2024 and not something in the billions?

[RV_Wizard]

9 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

As you know, God said, in Genesis 2, that he created heaven and Earth in one day, including living things.

No, He didn't say in one day.  

The first verse of Genesis 2 begins with the term "thus," or, "so." This reflects back to the content of the prior passage, so this verse summarizes all of chapter 1. It is a statement of conclusion: God completed His work of creation. The heavens and the earth and every aspect of God's great creation was finished.

Chapter and verse divisions were not part of the original Bible text; these words are meant to be read in a natural flow from those at the end of chapter 1. In Genesis 1:31, God declared all He had made as "very good." He accomplished exactly what He set out to do, and He was satisfied with the results. In this moment, nothing existed in creation which was bad, or corrupt, or out of sync with the plan and purpose of God. The heavens and earth were vast, teeming with life, and they were exactly as God intended them to be.  source

Again, every Bible reference you make is so completely wrong it's like you are deliberately misquoting the Bible to distort its meaning and make it look flawed.  Frankly, we can learn about any of your arguments here.

[RV_Wizard]

8 hours ago, Diamond said:

That means day two was 4.63 B, Day three was 2.315 B, day three was 2.315 B, day four was 1.1575 ...

Day Age theory is poorly thought out.  A billion year day has a billion year night, and nothing would survive a billion years of darkness.  Even so, nothing in Genesis one would allow for evolution or any explanation of an old earth that conforms with either science or the Bible.  A compromise between truth and untruth is untruth.  

See why.

[Diamond]

13 hours ago, Sparks said:

6,000 years ago

This comes from Bishop Ushers book that has been widely accepted for the last 500 years. We can confirm this with history and archeology. Even evolutionists use the words Adam, Eve & Eden for a reason. 

[Diamond]

7 hours ago, RV_Wizard said:

  A compromise between truth and untruth is untruth.  

There is no compromise. Science and the Bible are in 100% agreement with no contradictions. God uses Science and God uses the Bible because He wants us to know the work He has done. It is like your left and your right hand. 

[Sparks]

8 minutes ago, Diamond said:

This comes from Bishop Ushers book that has been widely accepted for the last 500 years. We can confirm this with history and archeology. Even evolutionists use the words Adam, Eve & Eden for a reason. 

Creationists use historical and legal data to determine a 6,000 year Earth, mainly the genealogy of people in the Bible, and how long they lived.  It is sort of a reverse math back to Adam, and you get about 6,000 years that way.  As for the 'billions of years,' that is on shaky ground because all of the dating methods use a great many assumptions.  In short, dating methods don't work.

Suffice it to say only God knows the exact age of the Earth, but at least Creationists can noodle out a visible method to a likely age knowing that the Earth, Stars, Universe is all within 6 days of Adam, and we know how long he lived.  

[Diamond]

15 hours ago, Sparks said:

The science" cannot estimate the age of the universe because you cannot really judge great distances with the methods available. 

It is a ballpark figure. God knows that the exact number is but we are doing good just to get into the ballpark. We know that the universe is very exact and very precise because of the natural laws. We know that God is a God of very exact and every precise justice.  Science can not argue with the fact that God created the laws and natural process that mold and shape our universe. 

[Sparks]

4 minutes ago, Diamond said:

There is no compromise. Science and the Bible are in 100% agreement with no contradictions. God uses Science and God uses the Bible because He wants us to know the work He has done. It is like your left and your right hand. 

Science is just a tool much like a wrench or pliers, but it can only measure the natural world through observation and testing, not the super natural.  God is a supernatural being, who does super natural things.  Science cannot be in agreement with what is supernatural, by it's own nature.