Jesus Commandments

[Jedi4Yahweh]

14 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Yes, they are applicable all the time. The point is how to obey them. If you think you can do them all by your own strength, then that is putting yourself under the Law and its consequences, even if you break one, or have the wrong motive. 

However, as a believer in Christ`s finished work on the cross and receiving His Holy Spirit, we have the absolute privilege of receiving Christ`s very own divine nature (2 Peter 3 - 8). That is a growth experience. But our standing before God the Father is that we are perfect, have fulfilled all the Law because we are in Christ who has done it all.

God would never give us commandments and not give us the power to do them.  Jesus said that the words he spoke are going to judge us on that great day.  

I don't understand what you mean by fulfilled.  Just because He lived a life of perfect obedience does not make you exempt from obeying his teachings and commands.  He lived a obedient life and gave us an example to follow after.  He said if you love him you will obey his commands and if you don't love him you will disobey and disregard his commandments. 

"If you love Me, keep My commandments. [Jhn 14:15]

Edited August 25, 2024 by Jedi4Yahweh

[LaMonte]

21 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Yes, He forgave us first, but we are still commanded to forgive others or God will not forgive you.

What is your point?

     I do love Christ teachings and commands. I know that if I broke the Law in one area, I am guilty of all. James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

     I became a follower of Christ, through faith not by the works of the Law. My Hope is in Christ and His righteousness, which He imputed to me just like He did to Abraham. 

     Do you keep God’s Law perfectly? That’s what He requires. 

    Gal 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

      How did they receive the Spirit? By keeping the law, or by believing through faith, it was by believing. No one ever received the Holy Spirit by keeping the law. If they could not obtain salvation by the works of the Law, how could they to grow in holiness or Christian maturity by the law? 

      All true believers desire to obey Jesus and His commands and council. We are in a moment-by-moment battle with the flesh.

      Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?

 Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

[LaMonte]

"A clear conscience is the sure sign of a bad memory." –Mark Twain

"There's one way to find out if a man is honest: ask him; if he says yes, you know he is not." –Mark Twain

[Jedi4Yahweh]

52 minutes ago, LaMonte said:

What is your point?

No point other than what is in my OP.  Does Jesus teachings offend you?

Edited August 25, 2024 by Jedi4Yahweh

[LaMonte]

3 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Does Jesus teachings offend you?

     Of course not, I love every word that Christ says to me through the scripture. Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

     I personally don’t see any difference between Jesus’s teaching and Paul’s teaching. 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

      1 Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

     Everyone who has this hope of Christ return, will be influence towards holiness.

     Praise God, you and I have the same hope.