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There Won't Be A Millennium On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)


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17 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

What did fire from heaven do to Sodom and Gomorrah?

Genesis 19:24-25KJV

24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

25 And he overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of the cities, and that which grew upon the ground.

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Peter 3:10-12KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

fire, the kind that burns this up is one thing .then there's the other kind the symbolic kind. Anything from The Book of Revelation qualifies as the symbolic kind. All of which should have been obvious from Revelation 1:1


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11 hours ago, Luther said:

Where do you see a thousand anything in Isaiah 11?

first ,lets read  Isaiah 11 


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57 minutes ago, Locust said:

fire, the kind that burns this up is one thing .then there's the other kind the symbolic kind. Anything from The Book of Revelation qualifies as the symbolic kind. All of which should have been obvious from Revelation 1:1

I Strongly Disagree 

The event in fire seen coming down from God in Luke 17:29-30 is the very same event in fire seen coming down from God in Revelation 20:9, "Literal Fire In Destruction From Heaven" in "Parallel" teachings

Revelation 20:9KJV

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

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1 hour ago, Locust said:

first ,lets read  Isaiah 11 

This is my very short summary of Isaiah 11. I did not detect any suggestion of a "thousand years":

[Isaiah 11:1-5]:

Jesus Christ, the  "descendant" of Jesse....will come to  "smite" ( kill, slay) the earth with the  "rod of His mouth". He comes to judge the earth with the Word of God:

Revelation 19:13-15

And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

[14]And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

[15]And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

2 Peter 3:7

But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

( Summary: Christ coming at the last day to judge the earth)

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[Isaiah 11:5-9]:

Allegorical language for the eternal kingdom of God, heaven.

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[Isaiah 11: 10-12]:

" In that day", the day of the Lord, Christ comes to gather His children at His second coming so we shall " ever be with the Lord" ( 1 Thess. 4:17):

Isaiah 11:11

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

( Compare with):

Matthew 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 

Hebrews 9:28

So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

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[Isaiah 11:13-16]:

Allegorical language of the eternal kingdom of God,  heaven.  

 

 

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Isaiah 11

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

 

how did it get missed ?


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On 2/1/2025 at 5:09 PM, truth7t7 said:

I explained very clearly using the scripture in context, it would be 4th grade reading comprehension, I will give you bold type and underline it this time (The Present Heavens And Earth Which Are Now)

God's words in context clearly define the present heavens and earth which are now, do you actually read the scripture that's simple and clear before your eyes?

2 Peter 3:7KJV

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

Hello? 

Please help me to understand your position... Do you have an idea of what is meant by "heavens" and "earth?"

I think your misunderstanding of the end times may be based on your idea of what these two terms mean.

Heavens = ?

Earth = ?


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5 hours ago, Indentured Servant said:

Hello? 

Please help me to understand your position... Do you have an idea of what is meant by "heavens" and "earth?"

I think your misunderstanding of the end times may be based on your idea of what these two terms mean.

Heavens = ?

Earth = ?

You've clearly been answered on the questions, next

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10 hours ago, Locust said:

Isaiah 11

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

 

how did it get missed ?

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

(For, Behold, I Create New Heavens And A New Earth)

Isaiah 65:17-18 & 25KJV

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

 

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.


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46 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Isaiah Chapters 11 & 65 Is The Very Same Place, The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth, Don't Be Deceived By Claims This Represents A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth

Same Wolf & Lamb Together, And Lion Eating Straw Like The Bullock/Ox, In The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven And Earth

(For, Behold, I Create New Heavens And A New Earth)

Isaiah 65:17-18 & 25KJV

17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.

 

25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 11:6-7KJV

6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Was some part of your post supposed to be refuting the kingdom here on earth ?


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Matthew 6:10

Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth.

since a kingdom is a form of government .Jesus was asking that God make it possible for him to take over all governing of the earth  

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