Is it offensive to Jesus for countries to deport immigrants in mass numbers?

[Ray12614]

On 1/25/2025 at 3:21 PM, Neighbor said:

"Do non-citizens have to register with the Selective Service System?

Yes. The Selective Service System is a federal agency that collects information about non-citizen individuals who may be required to perform military service. All non-citizen males ages 18 to 25 living in the U.S. have to register with Selective Service. Even undocumented immigrants who can’t enlist in the military are required to register with Selective Service."

Excerpt from https://stories.avvo.com/rights/immigration/can-immigrants-serve-us-military-8-rules-non-citizen-service.html

Requirements is one thing . . . compliance is an very different matter. How will they find out who has or has not when they cannot know WHERE these people are at in our country??????

Hundreds have been bussed into my area residing in brand name hotels, and now, they suddenly are gone and nobody knows where they are . . . but the monthly checks keep being applied to their debit cards . . . . 

[Neighbor]

7 minutes ago, Ray12614 said:

but the monthly checks keep being applied to their debit cards . . . . 

Hi, Could you elaborate on that?

[Ray12614]

56 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi, Could you elaborate on that?

Certainly. Locally we had an senior high rise that had to be evacuated due to structural issues which caused 200 residents to lose their apartment for 1 year until the building was safely fixed. Some people were connected with my church so we have 1st hand information about this. The local hotels were full of‘immigrants’ and so they had to be housed in other counties. Upon further investigation into local hotels we found that the government paid the hotel tab along with rental cars and debit cards for food and personal expense allowances. 
 

lately rooms have opened up in higher end hotels such as holiday inn and Hampton. Nobody knows where they all went but some illegals went to days inn and super 8. These people are not working and it’s like they are on an all-expenses paid vacation. Meanwhile local homeless residents who are citizens are sleeping in their cars and camping behind Walmart weather permitting. 
 

my church helps homeless as finances permit but federal money could do much more to help our homeless people instead of helping illegals who don’t work, and shouldn’t be here illegally. 

Edited January 30 by Ray12614

[Neighbor]

14 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

federal money could do much more to help our homeless people instead of helping illegals who don’t work, and shouldn’t be here illegally. 

Agreed, whether they work or not. However if they work and FICA items are deducted from their employer and them what should happen to their contributions to the "system"? The system did not allow for an employer to deny them employment because their id seemed fraudulent to the employer. Instead the employer had to wait for the system to demand that they fire the worker or face a$1500 a day fine.

Insanity like that has ruled far longer than  the Biden administration was around.

It will be wonderful if things get straightened out and there is an understandable worker entry permit system that comes about. Without one we will go from one severe mess into yet another and I think a severe economic crash due to lack of workers.

May God have mercy on all affected.

 

[Neighbor]

2 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

my church helps homeless as finances permit but federal money could do much more to help our homeless people instead of helping illegals who don’t work, and shouldn’t be here illegally. 

Hi, I found "our" homeless not to be illegally in the USA but instead are real Americans, white skinned, and able to speak clearly the approved English language, yet they will not work;  and in fact can't because they have devastated their body and mind with  illegal drug use. They have bought their drugs from our own home grown native white skinned drug dealers.

Throwing their competition out of the country will not be an answer to them and their thievery necessary for them to to do commerce in illegal drugs. 

It is one heck of a mess, little church programs help a little, but the workers are few-

[Lend An Ear]

the American Working Class  Tax  Payer  provide  Mexico  alone  a  flux  amount  of  free  money,  dollars,  every  single  year......

 the money is not reaching the impoverished,  should American Taxpayers not be concerned that their tax money has not been applied to assist the people for whom it was collected ?

[In the Clouds]

On 1/24/2025 at 5:48 PM, Marston said:

As an American Christian I am a bit torn on this. I don't know that the Bible adequately addresses this matter. It's one thing to subsidize refugees of war or famine but 99.99% of the migrants to the U.S. are people looking for better economic opportunities. We already have MILLIONS of Americans who are doing without adequate food, shelter, and medical care. Our national debt is in the stratosphere and we simply cannot afford to provide for millions and millions of poor foreigners. 

Do you believe that it's offensive to Jesus when we send them back to their countries?  

It wasn't offensive when the masses of Hebrews left Egypt.

[Whosoever]

Why should He be?  He'll be transporting more people to hell than to heaven.  He said so.

[Cyoder]

What would happen to you and your family if we just leave the border open to everyone?  Jerusalem had walls, why can't we?  I think we should deport the criminals and work something out with the rest.  I don't want to see decent people suffer. 

[Tristen]

Reply to OP.

The ideal is that we living in western nations would export our prosperity, safety and freedoms to other nations - so their citizens could also benefit from our abundance - whilst learning to generate their own. 

The problem with the 'open immigration' system is that it eventuates in little help for the citizens of the less prosperous nations, but also increasingly limits the capacity for western nations to provide assistance to the less fortunate. It further reduces the capacity of western nations to look after their own citizens. The 'open immigration' system is therefore unsustainable - and will ultimately result in the collapse of western society. That is the desire of some - who would like to see the end of western culture - to replace it with their own version of utopia (e.g. Socialism or Islamism). 

Christianity is not an administrative covenant. That means, God is interested in individual human hearts - and not dictating to governments how they are to address domestic issues. Governments have to decide for themselves how best to serve their own citizens.

Ultimately, whilst difficult in the short term, restoring orderly migration - along with the strength, freedom and prosperity associated with that stability - will provide the largest benefit to the largest number of people, including those in the less prosperous nations (where permitted by their own governments).