Race Specific Churches

[Smalcald]

No, I think it stands pretty well. It

[Fiosh]

How would it sound if you joined the First WHITE ARYAN Baptist Chruch........ how does that sound ? welcoming? I think not but it really is the same thing.

I wouldn't expect someone who only speaks spanish to go to an english speaking church. You might as well try getting a message from barking dogs if you don' undersand he language.

Are you afraid of people?

No, this is exactly my point. This church (and many like it) was an English speaking church. Obviously if it is a situation where they do not speak English then it it a seperate issue entirely.

Well I have an issue with these race specific churches, so much so that I have told a friend that I cannot have anything to do with her so long as she goes to this one race specific church. I dont know if I did the right thing, I told her I love her and am not judging her but that I just have issue with it, which she knows about...I also talked to the church about it but of course they have done nothing about it and won't do anything about it. Anyway...God will tell me what he thinks on judgement day (or before).

You are not judging her??

Um...no I am not judging who she is but what she does, I still love her and would love to be in touch with her again should she change churches.

no they say stuff like "Oh anyone can come" as a defense, but come on, would you join if you were a different race? methinks not...

I think I see where he problem is.

I dont understand what you are saying. If a church was named Latino Baptist Church and you were not Latino and when you walked in everyone was Latino would you care to join? Furthermore, I have gone to the church and whether they admit it or not, they promote racism and cultural superiority as well as segregation, when you are in that sort of a one race setting it is impossible not to...Christianity is about Christ, not division amongst races and cultures, under his fathership we are one family and a church should not promote segregation for someone who would like to join but would feel uncomfortable doing so.

Hi DoK,

I'm curious. How do they promote "racism and cultural superiority as well as segregation"?

[The Church I attend was established and built by Polish immigrants. Many of the Catholic Churches in my city have the same beginnings, but with a different ethnic group: Italian, Slovak, Irish, etc. Over time, the cultural and language differences faded. It was never about exclusion, though. It was about people of similar language and culture settling in an area of the city and building a church. Anyone was, and is welcome.]

Peace,

Fiosh

Yes, well this was a race specific church in that the name of the race is in the name of the church, i.e. Latino Baptist Church. Most people who attend the church are obviously Latino and remain so.

well sometimes i am afraid of people. But not at church. Not even if they use an improper name. Just not for it , i had a friend invite me to his church it was called by some racial name. he new it was divisive because he was quick to tell me i was welcome to come eventhough the name made it seem like i was unwelcome.

Could it be that your perseption is distorted? If people are telling you that you are welcome to attend and it makes you feel uncomfortable, maybe you just don't like those people. Sounds to me like you have issues.

No I do not think she has issues neccessarily. I attended this race specific church and even though I looked over the fact that race was in the name AND it was almost totally Latino, I cannot ignore the atmosphere it breeds. Naturally there is an air of superiority, racism and cultural superiority, how can there not be? Bottom line, church is church, and race should not be a means of divisiveness.

I'm still not understanding. Can you give a specific example or two of how the air of superiority, racism etc. is reflected in the church members?

[DaughterofKing]

No, I think it stands pretty well. It

[Keith]

You are not judging her??

Um...no I am not judging who she is but what she does, I still love her and would love to be in touch with her again should she change churches.

You are judging what she does? Ok, let's look at it this way, DoK... from your other posts, you yourself said that you want to live your life the way you want. You just want to have fun, you envy Jessica Simpson, want to have Gucci and other nice things, think God is unfair because He doesn't give you the option to just not exist after you die and you think He owes you heaven just because you were born and didn't ask to be. By your own admission, you don't want to live the way God has laid out for us because "it's too hard!"

Are you sure you want to judge anyone else for what they do??? You do not have the correct idea about God and you do not have a correct idea about churches that are made up mostly of one culture. Saying that you wouldn't attend a Latino church, or any other church just because it was another culture is racist. You say you aren't judging, but that's all you're doing... judging others and blaming God.

Remember now, I'm just following what you said earlier...

I am not judging her, if a sister was sinning I would point out her sin to her and hope that she would change, it would be my duty to do so.

[DaughterofKing]

Fiosh--

It is called LATINO baptist church and most everyone who goes there is LATINO...what need I say??? If you were a LAtino christian why would you join a Latino church where most members were Latino? I cannot remember every instance of racism I felt or heard but we all know that if there is a gathering of a specific race intentionally, they are at the very least celebrating their race. I suppose it was neccessary at one time and even mandatory to segregate races in church but that is not the case anymore. I am sure there are still many predominantly white churches that would sneer at someone of a different race, but two wrongs dont make a right. it's got to change.

[Gerioke]

Fiosh--

It is called LATINO baptist church and most everyone who goes there is LATINO...what need I say??? If you were a LAtino christian why would you join a Latino church where most members were Latino? I cannot remember every instance of racism I felt or heard but we all know that if there is a gathering of a specific race intentionally, they are at the very least celebrating their race. I suppose it was neccessary at one time and even mandatory to segregate races in church but that is not the case anymore. I am sure there are still many predominantly white churches that would sneer at someone of a different race, but two wrongs dont make a right. it's got to change.

Be the change.

[Fiosh]

Fiosh--

It is called LATINO baptist church and most everyone who goes there is LATINO...what need I say??? If you were a LAtino christian why would you join a Latino church where most members were Latino? I cannot remember every instance of racism I felt or heard but we all know that if there is a gathering of a specific race intentionally, they are at the very least celebrating their race. I suppose it was neccessary at one time and even mandatory to segregate races in church but that is not the case anymore. I am sure there are still many predominantly white churches that would sneer at someone of a different race, but two wrongs dont make a right. it's got to change.

Can you remember at least one specific instance of racist behavior?

[DaughterofKing]

You are not judging her??

Um...no I am not judging who she is but what she does, I still love her and would love to be in touch with her again should she change churches.

You are judging what she does? Ok, let's look at it this way, DoK... from your other posts, you yourself said that you want to live your life the way you want. You just want to have fun, you envy Jessica Simpson, want to have Gucci and other nice things, think God is unfair because He doesn't give you the option to just not exist after you die and you think He owes you heaven just because you were born and didn't ask to be. By your own admission, you don't want to live the way God has laid out for us because "it's too hard!"

Are you sure you want to judge anyone else for what they do??? You do not have the correct idea about God and you do not have a correct idea about churches that are made up mostly of one culture. Saying that you wouldn't attend a Latino church, or any other church just because it was another culture is racist. You say you aren't judging, but that's all you're doing... judging others and blaming God.

I know that I am a sinner and I am not judging her for the millionth time, but she is a believer and I cannot have anything to do with someone who confesses to be a believer in the church and acts this way. I dont understand why you think I am a racist? I would just like there to a church that is filled with Christians no matter what culture or race they are. I would like JC to be the focus and I would like all cultured and races to feel welcome.

[Keith]

Fiosh--

It is called LATINO baptist church and most everyone who goes there is LATINO...what need I say??? If you were a LAtino christian why would you join a Latino church where most members were Latino? I cannot remember every instance of racism I felt or heard but we all know that if there is a gathering of a specific race intentionally, they are at the very least celebrating their race. I suppose it was neccessary at one time and even mandatory to segregate races in church but that is not the case anymore. I am sure there are still many predominantly white churches that would sneer at someone of a different race, but two wrongs dont make a right. it's got to change.

If you attend a church, is it mostly white? Where is the difference? You are the one doing the sneering. You are not making any sense.

[Gerioke]

You are not judging her??

Um...no I am not judging who she is but what she does, I still love her and would love to be in touch with her again should she change churches.

You are judging what she does? Ok, let's look at it this way, DoK... from your other posts, you yourself said that you want to live your life the way you want. You just want to have fun, you envy Jessica Simpson, want to have Gucci and other nice things, think God is unfair because He doesn't give you the option to just not exist after you die and you think He owes you heaven just because you were born and didn't ask to be. By your own admission, you don't want to live the way God has laid out for us because "it's too hard!"

Are you sure you want to judge anyone else for what they do??? You do not have the correct idea about God and you do not have a correct idea about churches that are made up mostly of one culture. Saying that you wouldn't attend a Latino church, or any other church just because it was another culture is racist. You say you aren't judging, but that's all you're doing... judging others and blaming God.

I know that I am a sinner and I am not judging her for the millionth time, but she is a believer and I cannot have anything to do with someone who confesses to be a believer in the church and acts this way. I dont understand why you think I am a racist? I would just like there to a church that is filled with Christians no matter what culture or race they are. I would like JC to be the focus and I would like all cultured and races to feel welcome.

What's your problem? You don't even wan to go to church.