What's in a Name? Yeshua, Yeshu, Iesu, Iesus, Jesus.

[Orion]

1 hour ago, Marathoner said:

It's poor etiquette to expect others to answer your questions when you refuse to answer questions that were asked of you first.

Does this apply to everyone? 

[Orion]

1 hour ago, Marathoner said:

Is it your belief that if others fail to meet your expectations

I have no expectations of you or any other person. 

But wouldn't you agree that the Lord our God Yeshua has expectations of all that claim to know Him and follow Him?  

[Marathoner]

10 minutes ago, Orion said:

I have no expectations of you or any other person. 

But wouldn't you agree that the Lord our God Yeshua has expectations of all that claim to know Him and follow Him?  

The 15th chapter of Acts articulates what the Lord expects of us as a whole. With regard to expectations that are unique to those works which we were created to walk in, He communicates those to us as well. Each member of His Body has a specific purpose which contributes to the whole.

The Lord is not limited by man, my friend. He alone knows the hearts and minds of us all. Adhering to names dictated by various sects of the Sacred Name movement are not a burden the Lord placed upon us. The Lord is known primarily through His atrributes.

[Orion]

3 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Is the Lord limited by man?

No. 

 

3 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Does He only understand one specific language?

No. 

 

3 hours ago, Marathoner said:

Did He ever command us to refer to Him by a specific name?

Yes. Exodus 3:14, 20:1-7. 

[Marathoner]

1 minute ago, Orion said:

Yes. Exodus 3:14, 20:1-7. 

I appreciate the answer. Am I correct in understanding that anyone who does not abide by your expectation is disobedient to the Lord? 

Here is your expectation: referring to the Son of the living God in a specific manner. 

[Orion]

2 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

The 15th chapter of Acts articulates what the Lord expects of us as a whole.

Acts 15 is one thing, but it is not the whole counsel of God for those who are called by His name.  We have the moral law of YHVH written on our hearts, and we are to live according to it, which is the Law of Yeshua ha Mashiach. 

[Orion]

1 minute ago, Marathoner said:

I appreciate the answer. Am I correct in understanding that anyone who does not abide by your expectation is disobedient to the Lord? 

Here is your expectation: referring to the Son of the living God in a specific manner. 

I will say it again for your understanding: I expect nothing of you or anyone else.  I made a suggestion that seems burdensome to you, but in reality is not burdensome at all. 

[Orion]

8 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Adhering to names dictated by various sects of the Sacred Name movement are not a burden the Lord placed upon us.

His name is Yeshua.  I fail to see the burden at all in saying it with all reverence it is due and that His name deserves. 

[Marathoner]

For those reading the topic, the Sacred Name movement believes that God must be referred to by a specific name; typically what they understand as His (biblical) Hebrew name. They extend this belief to include the Son of Man, Jesus Christ.

Referring to the Son of God by any other name is blasphemy according to their doctrine. While it's true that the Sacred Name movement is an offshoot of Adventism, modern iterations have cropped up from different sources. 

Note that no such commandment was placed upon the Body of Christ following the day of Pentecost. Refer to the 15th chapter of Acts to learn what the Spirit mandates for His beloved; if uttering a specific name was required by the Lord, this would have been recorded in that chapter.

Don't be deceived. 

[Orion]

7 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Referring to the Son of God by any other name is blasphemy according to their doctrine.

That is not what I said or implied. For you to suggest otherwise is rather odd. 

 

9 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

While it's true that the Sacred Name movement is an offshoot of Adventism, modern iterations have cropped up from different sources. 

I'm not SDA.  I am simply a student of Yeshua and His word. 

 

11 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Note that no such commandment was placed upon the Body of Christ following the day of Pentecost.

Yet everyone that knew Yeshua called him Yeshua. When the apostles and the other disciples wrote their letters, they transliterated Yeshua into the Greek Iesus. However, anyone in Judea reading those letters would have understood Iesus was Yeshua.  And for the next 1600 years Yeshua was Iesus in both the Greek manuscripts and the English translations.  Man changed Iesus to Jesus for man's convenience.  

I find no burden whatever in using the Lord's name as it originally sounded, which is Yeshua.  You are free to say Jesus or Iesus or Yeshu, which many jews in Israel do today.  I'll stay with Yeshua. 

17 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Refer to the 15th chapter of Acts to learn what the Spirit mandates for His beloved; if uttering a specific name was required by the Lord, this would have been recorded in that chapter.

Does the 15th chapter of Acts say anything about the moral law? adultery? Murder? Coveting? Using the name of the Lord in vain? Theft? Bearing false witness? Etc?

If one says they abide in Yeshua, but does not have the moral law written on his heart, does not love God but continues to walk in the lust of his eyes, the lust of his flesh, and the pride of life, he is not saved. 

Acts chapter 15 addresses the judaizers who said the Gentiles needed to be circumcised and to keep the law of Moses (the civic and ceremonial law).  But we are free from the mosaic laws other than the moral laws.