"Teachings of Christ" vs "Teachings of Church"

[Openly Curious]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

[EricH]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

[Openly Curious]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

[EricH]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

It is a difficut question to respond to because it is so broad. If a church is engaging in creating doctrines that God reveal in the scriptures, there could be various consequenses, depending on the nature of the doctrine being taught

[EricH]

The reason I say this is too broad to give a definitive answer is because you need to differentiate what types of teachings you are talking about. One question I would ask is are you talking about "abiblical teaching" or "anti-biblical teaching? For example, every church has a form of church government. The only thing the Bible prescribes in terms of leadership is the appointment of local elders to lead the congregation. It lists their qualifications, but it does not say who should select them (i.e. are they selected by a congregational vote, a bishop, a pastor etc.). When a church lands in a particular place in terms of who should select them, they are teaching "abiblical" things. Things not prescribed in scripture and not forbidden. When the church ignores the qualifications for those who are chosen, the are teaching "anti-biblical" things. In this particular example the "abiblical' stuff is insignificant. The anti-biblical stuff will cause huge issues

[Openly Curious]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

It is a difficut question to respond to because it is so broad. If a church is engaging in creating doctrines that God reveal in the scriptures, there could be various consequenses, depending on the nature of the doctrine being taught

So, in essence which one should a person follow and put their trust in the Church (teaching of man) or Christ (the Solid Rock, the Word) for one cannot build on both you can only have one foundation and faith right.

Openly Curious

[EricH]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

It is a difficut question to respond to because it is so broad. If a church is engaging in creating doctrines that God reveal in the scriptures, there could be various consequenses, depending on the nature of the doctrine being taught

So, in essence which one should a person follow and put their trust in the Church (teaching of man) or Christ (the Solid Rock, the Word) for one cannot build on both you can only have one foundation and faith right.

Openly Curious

See my previous post

[Openly Curious]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

It is a difficut question to respond to because it is so broad. If a church is engaging in creating doctrines that God reveal in the scriptures, there could be various consequenses, depending on the nature of the doctrine being taught

So, in essence which one should a person follow and put their trust in the Church (teaching of man) or Christ (the Solid Rock, the Word) for one cannot build on both you can only have one foundation and faith right.

Openly Curious

See my previous post

Yes I saw all of your previous post but don't get your point, I literally mean "all" of the commands the entire "teachings of Christ." I don't know how to be any plainer and I know that the bible is a broad subject but that's what I'm meaning.

Openly Curious

[EricH]

Can one mistake the "Teachings of Christ" with the "Teachings of the Church" and therefore build their house on the sinking sand. If so what are the consequences of one making this mistake.

God Bless

Openly Curious

There is no doubt someone can do just that. It is the teachings of the Bible we must build upon. Often times, the teachings of the church are contradictory to scripture, and to follow them blindly may be to build on sinking sand.

Did you have a specific command in mind?

Hi Eric,

Thanks for your comment. The particular question that I asked was not dealing with specific commands, but the "Teachings of Christ" verses the "Teachings of the Church." The church being Baptist, Presbyterian, Methodist, Pentecostal, Apostolic, Catholic etc., ( I think you get the idea) but as you can see from these few examples that there are various church teachings everywhere around us.

Openly Curious

It is a difficut question to respond to because it is so broad. If a church is engaging in creating doctrines that God reveal in the scriptures, there could be various consequenses, depending on the nature of the doctrine being taught

So, in essence which one should a person follow and put their trust in the Church (teaching of man) or Christ (the Solid Rock, the Word) for one cannot build on both you can only have one foundation and faith right.

Openly Curious

See my previous post

Yes I saw all of your previous post but don't get your point, I literally mean "all" of the commands the entire "teachings of Christ." I don't know how to be any plainer and I know that the bible is a broad subject but that's what I'm meaning.

Openly Curious

We are told to follow the teachings of scripture. One of those teachings is that we are to be subject to the leaders God places over us in a church setting. If one is going to accuse church leadership if being unbiblical and refuse to follow them, they had better be sure they are on solid ground. God takes rebellion against the authorities He has established very seriously

[EricH]

Actually Eric H, if I find the leadership in a certain church to be unbiblical I leave the church. I have never seen anywhere in scripture where I am to accept false doctrine because the leadership of a particular church preaches it. We are to adhere to authority, but Jesus authority is higher than any church official. Also, if you are no longer a member of an unbiblical church, you are not under their authority. I agree with Openly Curious on this matter.

My point is that you should be sure that what you are hearing is false doctrine before you accuse the leaders God has established of teaching falsely. I see too many who are free with accusations of false teaching when in reality the real reason they leave is that they just did not get their way. Just because you physically remove yourself from a situation does not mean that God no longer views you under authority. You are only released form authority when God releases you.

I have seen this happen in church discipline cases. peopl just leave who are being disciplined and assume because they leave, they are no longer under the authority of the leadership. They are until God releases them