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Christians say:

"I will die for what I believe"

Muslims say:

"YOU will die for what I believe"

There is no peace with Muslims, there never will be for the Christian world. They will lead us into the End Times it's only a matter of opportunity. I will have "love and peace" with any of them that repent and realize Christ is Lord, and that it was Satan that Mohammed spoke to that day in the cave.

I don't think Christians are to stand by and be slaughtered while they wait for the end. How is one to reason with the unreasonable? It's easy to say "I would lay my head down and also watch all my childrens heads be chopped off, then their bodies burned" sitting comfortably in front of our computers here.

But there I think one's first instinct would be a little different in the hell that these barbarians have created on Earth for us all over there.

Maranatha

Praise His name

MfC

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are like the people of Ninevah we pull a Jonah ? :mgcheerful:

Look, GOD HIMSELF appointed ONE MAN...not a nation, to prophesy to the Ninevites. You know what scripture said.

God did not say, "Hey, bring all the Ninevites and your other enemies who want to destroy you ..... and let them into your homeland to destroy you."

God gives us specific orders and when the Commander in Chief gives an order, you obey it.

God said to go into all the world....and spread the gospel. Since I was a foreign missionary in Muslim Indonesia, I KNOW....I was there. I lived with them. I heard the morning call to prayer at 4:30 am each day... I KNOW what I'm talking about.

Look, I may go to them, health permitting...but I won't bring them here to blow up my children and their children. I will not expose my fellow countrymen to people who want to kill us.

Brother, I would not that you be ignorant.....YOU ....friend, do what I DID. YOU personally, go out into the world to THEIR land and live among them as I did....and share the gospel.

Don't bring them here. Don't expose the weak, the sick, the lost here in this country...the elderly, the young...men, women and children who are about to become victims of Islamic violence.

Aren't you understanding? They want to KILL us...pure and simple. They don't like western society. We are the "great satan"...and they want us dead. They want Israel destroyed.

I guess you didn't get the same understanding from Jonah as I did, and that is understandable as many people get many understandings from the bible, all depending on the situations we may be in in our lives at that time... wonderful thing, the bible.

The way I see it God had asked Jonah to speak for Him and Jonah ran away from the task because he was not only afraid of the people that God wanted him to talk to, but as far as Jonah was concerned, they were evil, sinfull, hopeless people that should suffer and be damned by God.

He didn't want them to change, he wanted them to suffer for the things they had done.

He had an opportunity to open their eyes but was filled with so much fear and hate that he ran away from it.

Unfortunately, in todays world, there is so much hate on both sides now that it will not be resolved by man.

That doesn't mean that you and I cannot make a positive change in an individuals life.

Think about it... Jonah, one person (with Gods backing) spoke up, and a whole nation changed their ways, how much can you or I, with the same backing affect a single life

By the way, How much air time can you get in Iran, for a Christian program, if you had ....say $100,000?, who would let you air it ?, Who could get away with watching it?

Also what makes you think I haven't gone out into the world and lived in THEIR land?

I'm not trying to argue with you, I just think that if we look at the way the world is now and consider that God has always known the hearts of men THEN He knew we would eventually get to where we are now.

We are not going to stop the inevetable.

However, are you going to let that sense of hopelessness and the hate from others spread fear in you and the accompanying hate that goes with that, or are you going to ask the Lord to guide you in a loving manner to show His love and His way.

It is up to us as Christians to love and spread the Gospel

It is not up to us as Christians to "ban" anyone, leave that to the people of this world (and, yes, I think we are going to see a lot of suffering for it).

The world is heading towards Armegedon and there is nothing we can do to stop it.

We can however, do what God calls us to do and that is to love, and to spread His word.

No one can read the bible without knowing that the Lord said we would suffer for His name.

We as Christians ARE going to suffer, rightly or falsely.

I think that includes being cursed at by someone we are trying to preach the Gospel to.

But ......maybe someone might change, someone that God has put in our lives

From the perspective of the rest of the world, it would not be hard to look at the decadance, greed and self absorbtion of western society and see satan in that

I appreciate your perspective Mike, but there is alot here that you are simply missing. There is nothing to assume that what we are talking about is "inevitable." Furthermore, I take issue with you trying to rationalize our position as one of "hate." We are dealing with an enemy that is not merely "persecuting" us. This is an ideology that has as its primary goal, uniting the entire world under Islam. They are using every means available to them including infiltrating our own government and using our political system against us. Standing against this and attempting to thwart is not a product of hate, nor is it contrary with biblical principle.

Many Jews refused to see the threat Hitler posed until it was too late. Over and over they were told what Hitler was about to inflict upon them, and they simply brushed it off. Many Christians are going to do the same, it appears. Hitler made no secret of his plans, and the Arabs have followed suit. They have publicly declared what they intend to do. The West is fat, lazy, deaf and blind.

So, we dont allow Muslims into our world. How do we know who is a Muslim and who is'nt?

If we are going to protect ourselves against "them" , how are we to identify them.

A person that is a terrorist is not going to tell us they are a terrorist, so we will have to find a way of identifying them.

If they LOOK like a terrorist are they? If they "LOOK" like a Muslim are they?

When we see someone that"LOOKS' like they are from the Middle East are we going to automatically ASSUME they are a Muslim and because they are a Muslim they are a terrorist.

We are dealing with evil here, something that is in a mans heart, not on his face.

Don't get me wrong, I am not for a minute condoning anything about the Muslim religion, but I am concerned that our fear of what is happening between the Muslim religion and western society, is not only causing us to blacklist Muslims, but it is going to cause us to tar all the people that look like they are a Muslim with the same brush, and whether you want to admit it or not, that is racist!

I dont believe that is something that Jesus would approve of.

Many, many Muslims have NEVER had any exposure to Christianity other than to be told by their religious leaders, of how evil the Christians of western society are. How are we serving God when we confirm what they have learned by telling them they are not welcome whenever we meet them

These people are lost souls, our Lord is in pain over this, and so He has put some of us in their lives to give an example of just how true following Jesus is. Some of these people are in our lives now and some of us may never meet a Muslim.

I for one want to set a good example and teach about Christs love and how it is real as opposed to the values that are being taught in the Muslim society they are coming out of.

As I said earlier, there are a lot of people in western society (I believe I said "of the world") trying to stop attacks and the infiltration of governments etc.

Let them do that.

There are many parts to Gods body,

as, I suppose, there are many for Satan

The question to each of us, is, where do we fit in in Gods body, its hard to wear many hats, and admirable when someone can do that and not be biased.

I do not have the authority to really influence or dictate policy, nor do I want it, God has not put me there.

As a result I can express an opinion, which is fine, It is however, when expressing an opinion very easy to come up with oversimplified solutions.

When that happens we ' just can't understand why everyone else does'nt get it', that leads to frustration, then anger,

and guess who that is turned towards!

I understand my present position, and what I can do 'in the big picture', that is to show and tell about what Jesus has given me that nothing or no one, not even Muhamad can give me, ........love and salvation.

I believe it was St. Francis of Assissi that said ' preach the Gospel and if that does'nt work, speak' :blink:

Its our actions that matter, its what we do that matters, its how we show love to another human being that matters.

Its love, and only love, that overcomes the evil that can consume a person.

If we don't show love ......what has that love been replaced with?

Its not about stemming the wave of Muslim hate, it cant be done (well it can, but thats another topic) its about guiding individual people to the Lord.

In Gods love

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Death to islam!!

No, for all you politically correct or sensitive people out there...I did not say death to muslims.....

I said Death to islam!!!

And it will die! It will be burned up in the brightness of our Lord's coming.

Death to islam!!!


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Love and kindness cannot sway a terrorist.

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