aimee99 Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2006 If you do an internet search on exorcisms, posessions, demons that stuff there are documented cases. I have always been taught that we are protected from these things through Christ.So I do not know how it seems to be Christians that are the ones posessed. Can't we just call the name of Jesus and be protected? I am believing that through his name we have dominion. Please explain further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
His Ambassador Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 295 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 60 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/19/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1932 Share Posted March 20, 2006 "Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world". It is throught the power of the Holy Spirit living in us that Satan can be defeated. Just claim devine protection for (insert name here) in the name of Jesus and claim authority over Satan and his demons in the name of Jesus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimee99 Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/03/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 "Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world". It is throught the power of the Holy Spirit living in us that Satan can be defeated. Just claim devine protection for (insert name here) in the name of Jesus and claim authority over Satan and his demons in the name of Jesus. I am referring to events of the past that have been recorded in history. why did the exorcisms not work ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marnie Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 811 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 7,338 Content Per Day: 1.08 Reputation: 76 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/06/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2006 If you do an internet search on exorcisms, posessions, demons that stuff there are documented cases. I have always been taught that we are protected from these things through Christ.So I do not know how it seems to be Christians that are the ones posessed. Can't we just call the name of Jesus and be protected? I am believing that through his name we have dominion. Please explain further. As near as I can tell, Christians cannot be possessed, but can be oppressed and influenced by demons. Depending on how far back in history you go, sometimes "demon possession" was nothing more than a person with seizures or some sort of mental disorder, in which case there would be nothing to cast out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitality22004 Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/22/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2006 True Christians who are in a love relationship with God cannot be possessed by demonic spirits but can be oppressed by them. The most important thing to do is recognise that you overcome all things by the Blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony. Psalm 91 says that if you dwell in the secret place of the Most High, you abide under God's shadow and nothing can touch you. I would encourage you to renounce any association, attachment or ritual that you may have had in your life prior to your salvation experience, to stay in worship continually and to get as much of the Word into you as you possibly can so that you can fight the good fight of faith. Read Ephesians 6 and put on your armour every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted March 20, 2006 The Greek text never distinguishes between 'possessed' 'oppressed' or 'influenced' by demons. The word used in all cases could be translated simply "demoned" or as the JW's like to do it: "demonized." I've never been involved in an exorcism that 'didn't work,' so I don't know how to answer your question. As near as I can tell, it has to be a lack of fasting and prayer....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.75 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.92 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Actually, if you have no experience with the demonic realm, you are not going to know how to handle this question. I, as a born-again, Spirit-filled Christian, have been demonized. Now, I've been in arguments over "oppression" vs. "possession" with this, but honestly it does not matter. The point was I had one or more demons screwing with my mind - thoughts, feelings. (Edit: just read Leonard's post - I completely agree with what he said.) As believers, yes we do have authority over demons, in Jesus' name. But if we don't know how to use that authority, it is very possible to not be very effective with it. Remember the account of the disciples not being able to cast a demon out of a boy? Sometimes, one has to dig out roots, so to speak, before the demons can be cast out. For instance, unforgiveness gives demons grounds to demonization of a person. When casting demons out of someone, repentance is key. If you did something like play with a ouiji board, you have to repent of that! Now I can't answer specifics for the accounts you question. But I can say this - be careful about all this reading your are doing on this topic. Demons are sneaky. They can find some way to torment you through your investigating their activities like this. Even now there seems to be a spirit of fear hovering around you. You need to renounce that fear, acknowledging it for what it is, and choose the fear of the Lord instead. (And BTW, demons are very good liars - watch your sources. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabowd Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 112 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,489 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2006 If you do an internet search on exorcisms, posessions, demons that stuff there are documented cases. I have always been taught that we are protected from these things through Christ.So I do not know how it seems to be Christians that are the ones posessed. Can't we just call the name of Jesus and be protected? I am believing that through his name we have dominion. Please explain further. I've never done a search of such things, it's honestly never crossed my mind. This probably doesn't answer your question fully, but I think it would be a good idea to avoid putting too much focus, attention or curiosity into things like demon possession, the occult, etc. Don't open yourself up to such things, avoid it. If you have a growing, strong, healthy relationship with the Lord you have no reason to fear or worry about it. Spend your time studying Scripture and learning how to obey God. We should never put more emphasis on darkness and evil than we do on the power of God and His ability to overcome it. I'm not saying you've done that, but I know people who do. I know people who are literally obssessed with horror movies, the occult, demon possession, etc. It's unbalanced. Should we understand it and know how to combat it? Absolutely. But in my opinion, the internet is the last place to go looking for a proper understanding of it. Study the Scriptures, pray, seek the counsel of someone who is spiritually wise, mature and discerning if you feel a strong desire to learn more. Beyond that though, I'd say that if you have an extreme interest in such things, it might be unhealthy. Just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherTraveler Posted March 20, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 80 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,595 Content Per Day: 0.22 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/12/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2006 In the old testament, they cried, "God save the king." But King Saul wouldn't be saved. Saul was anointed of God, prophecied over by the prophet, and indeed king by the will of God, but Saul did not honor the Lord, and counted his relationship with God as unimportant, and eventually he was troubled by spirits, and only the playing of David (music)(who also was anointed by God, and would be king after Saul, but God said of David that he was a man after God's own heart) would give Saul some temporary refreshing. Both were anointed by the same prophet, prophecied over by the same prophet, and dripped with the same anointing oil, but the difference was in what was precious to the individual, David treasured the heart of God while Saul was just trying to "get by" using whatever means he could, without a relationship with the Lord. New Testament example in Acts 5 also brings death to the ones that lied to the Holy Ghost. The point is that a relationship with the Lord Jesus can and does save you, but clinging to just legalisms or a doctrinal position without relationship does not necessarily save you nor protect you. The devil knows the difference. "...Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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