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Earlier today I heard something said about the pharacies, and I have heard that they were Jesus's enemies. Is that true that they are his enemies? In my mind God has no enemies except for Satan and his angels. :noidea: Now I do know God does not like the way they do things for instance praying long and boastful prayers on the street corner just to draw glory and attention to themselves. So set me straight and give me your opinions on the question please, thanks so much, Ryan

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Jesus did not hate the pharacies. He loved them, but hated their sin. Just like all of us. Jesus doesn't hate humans, just human sin. This is repeated constantly through the bible.

I hope I helped. God bless,

DJ

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Ya makes perfect sense now... thats what I thought before but I like how you put it :noidea: now I am certain of it. I heard a question at church and the teacher said they were his enemies I was like hmm... anyway thanks for helping me out in getting this cleared up. :noidea:

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Okay another question about the pharacies:

Where the pharacies a actual group of people as in living in a specific area of was it a word used to describe people that acted ungodly?

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Jesus did not hate the pharacies. He loved them, but hated their sin. Just like all of us. Jesus doesn't hate humans, just human sin. This is repeated constantly through the bible.

I hope I helped. God bless,

DJ

SW:

Are you sure about that?. The Bible says God hates workers of inequity in Psalms 5:5 and 11:5. In other parts of Scripture it says that God is angry with sinners. If we are honest isn't that all of us? In fact, isn't is true that God loves us and offers us eternal life only for the sake of Christ and that otherwise we too are hated? Another great paradox, we are loved by God for the sake of Christ yet hated by Him for being sinners. It seems shallow and unbiblical to say God only hates the sin and not the sinner. I just see nothing to support that belief in the Bible.

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Jesus did not hate the pharacies. He loved them, but hated their sin. Just like all of us. Jesus doesn't hate humans, just human sin. This is repeated constantly through the bible.

I hope I helped. God bless,

DJ

SW:

Are you sure about that?. The Bible says God hates workers of inequity in Psalms 5:5 and 11:5. In other parts of Scripture it says that God is angry with sinners. If we are honest isn't that all of us? In fact, isn't is true that God loves us and offers us eternal life only for the sake of Christ and that otherwise we too are hated? Another great paradox, we are loved by God for the sake of Christ yet hated by Him for being sinners. It seems shallow and unbiblical to say God only hates the sin and not the sinner. I just see nothing to support that belief in the Bible.

Yet Christ is God, no?

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Indeed Smalcald. Jesus is truly God and truly man. My comment was directed at those who might hold the view that limits God and offers only a partial view of Him. After all, sinners who are saved are not saved from the devil or some other demon but they are saved from God Himself and His wrath that He will brutally apply to those who don't have the protection of Christ. We are loved for the sake of Christ, yet the Bible tells us that God not only hates the sin but also the sinner. To say God (and Jesus is clearly God) only hates the sin and not the sinner is not really biblical.

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Indeed Smalcald. Jesus is truly God and truly man. My comment was directed at those who might hold the view that limits God and offers only a partial view of Him. After all, sinners who are saved are not saved from the devil or some other demon but they are saved from God Himself and His wrath that He will brutally apply to those who don't have the protection of Christ. We are loved for the sake of Christ, yet the Bible tells us that God not only hates the sin but also the sinner. To say God (and Jesus is clearly God) only hates the sin and not the sinner is not really biblical.

I agree.

But to say, "for God so loved the world (which would include all of us)" however is biblical.

Once again I think we both agree that these things cannot be distilled to bumper stickers or easy answers, for which I thank God. The nature of God is revealed which shows His deep love for all of humanity, but His nature is also revealed that we are without Christ doomed to His righteous judgement and wrath. They are not really humanly reconcilable, at least for me.

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Smalcald quote:

"They are not really humanly reconcilable, at least for me."

SW:

That is true of so many things in God's Word. Of course, only Lutherans seem to grasp that!

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Here is some food for thought:

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. John 3:16

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