Worthy News: Despite Bush Veto Threat, Congress to Take Up Stem Cell B

[George]

The Senate will vote next week on three bills related to stem cell research, including a measure that would expand federal funding for a procedure that uses and destroys human embryos in the drive to cure diseases that afflict millions of Americans.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_st...,203217,00.html

[mrcorey]

The Senate will vote next week on three bills related to stem cell research, including a measure that would expand federal funding for a procedure that uses and destroys human embryos in the drive to cure diseases that afflict millions of Americans.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_st...,203217,00.html

I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers, but I think we should move ahead with stem cell research. Who knows what diseases they might be able to cure. An embryo in the lab is not the same as a fetus in a womb. I am also for cloning.

in Him;

-c-

[tah]

God forbid such atrocity...

Prayerfully this will not pass..

If it does then I am counting on Bush to keep the promise of veto it..

Humans are not created by God to be test objects in a science lab....

[anti-hillbilly]

The Senate will vote next week on three bills related to stem cell research, including a measure that would expand federal funding for a procedure that uses and destroys human embryos in the drive to cure diseases that afflict millions of Americans.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_st...,203217,00.html

I know I'll probably ruffle some feathers, but I think we should move ahead with stem cell research. Who knows what diseases they might be able to cure. An embryo in the lab is not the same as a fetus in a womb. I am also for cloning.

in Him;

-c-

I agree with you 100%; it's inhumane not to proceed. I also agree with cloning body parts.

[anti-hillbilly]

There's a vital bit information missing from that newslink. (If it's there I didn't see it.)

Part one:

At its core is H.R. 810, the House-passed bill, which would allow fertility clinic patients to donate their spare embryos to federally financed researchers.

That's very important because if someone is against donating their embryos and prefer to just destroy them the usual way they still have that option; nobody is going to be forced to do anything against their conscience. (Of course my question has always been if someone is against destroying the embryos then why are they getting invitro to begin with??? )

I wonder why Fox News didn't get more specific with that tidbit of information?

Parts two and three are loosely covered but I should point out these are conservatives sponsoring them and should be passed too:

Sponsored by Pennsylvania GOP Sens. Rick Santorum and Arlen Specter, encourages the National Institutes of Health to finance work that might someday allow scientists to produce cells equivalent to embryonic stem cells without destroying embryos.

The other, sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and known as the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act, would make it a crime for anyone to trade in tissues from fetuses that were conceived and aborted expressly for research purposes.

This is a package deal as far as I know folks; all yes or all no. Keep in mind real human beings lives are at stake including of course Christian lives since the vast majority of the people in this country at least are Christian. Christians get diabetes, parkinsons, spinal cord injuries, lukemia etc.

Also keep in mind that even if this measure fails, or if it passes and Bush vetos, those pin-head sized embryos will be still be destroyed with absolutely nothing gained. If this passes and Bush vetos (using his first veto since coming to office) this will be one more thing on his head.

Edited July 13, 2006 by anti-hillbilly

[anti-hillbilly]

There's a vital bit information missing from that newslink. (If it's there I didn't see it.)

Part one:

At its core is H.R. 810, the House-passed bill, which would allow fertility clinic patients to donate their spare embryos to federally financed researchers.

That's very important because if someone is against donating their embryos and prefer to just destroy them the usual way they still have that option; nobody is going to be forced to do anything against their conscience. (Of course my question has always been if someone is against destroying the embryos then why are they getting invitro to begin with??? )

I wonder why Fox News didn't get more specific with that tidbit of information?

Parts two and three are loosely covered but I should point out these are conservatives sponsoring them and should be passed too:

Sponsored by Pennsylvania GOP Sens. Rick Santorum and Arlen Specter, encourages the National Institutes of Health to finance work that might someday allow scientists to produce cells equivalent to embryonic stem cells without destroying embryos.

The other, sponsored by Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and known as the Fetus Farming Prohibition Act, would make it a crime for anyone to trade in tissues from fetuses that were conceived and aborted expressly for research purposes.

This is a package deal as far as I know folks; all yes or all no. Keep in mind real human beings lives are at stake including of course Christian lives since the vast majority of the people in this country at least are Christian. Christians get diabetes, parkinsons, spinal cord injuries, lukemia etc.

Also keep in mind that even if this measure fails, or if it passes and Bush vetos, those pin-head sized embryos will be still be destroyed with absolutely nothing gained. If this passes and Bush vetos (using his first veto since coming to office) this will be one more thing on his head.

What we need to be doing is working to outlaw invetro fertilization and abortion. Then unborn babies and what you describe as "those pinhead sized embryos" won't continue to be destroyed in any way. That is something I can get behind.

I disagree with you obviously but I have to give you credit for being consistent. It really burns me up when I see somebody on t.v. with a baby they got thru invitro talking about their "blessing from God" but how those of us who wanted their throw-aways used for research are "sinning" and violating "God's will". You never near them say they violated God's will for barreness and played God themselves to procreate.

[anti-hillbilly]

My belief is that it is God that has the right to open and close the womb and that all these new methods such as invetro fertilization are wrong. I know where you stand so this is more a clarification on my position than a rebuttle.

Well I certainly respect your consistent position on this even if I disagree with it. What you're saying makes logical sense and doesn't smack of double standards.

[mrcorey]

This really amazes me. God gave us doctor's and God gave those doctor's brains to help the human race. What exactly is wrong with invetro fertilization. I mean, if God didn't want science to be able to do it, it wouldn't be done. Just like the Titanic, they said it was unsinkable and not even God could sink it. Yet on it's maiden voyage look what happened. God uses doctor's every day to perform miracles. Look in the past 100 years how far along medicine has come. If it wasn't God's will, He would have put a stop to it long ago. God is not antiprogress, if He was, He wouldnt' have given us such smart doctor's.

in Him;

-c-

[anti-hillbilly]

This really amazes me. God gave us doctor's and God gave those doctor's brains to help the human race. What exactly is wrong with invetro fertilization. I mean, if God didn't want science to be able to do it, it wouldn't be done. Just like the Titanic, they said it was unsinkable and not even God could sink it. Yet on it's maiden voyage look what happened. God uses doctor's every day to perform miracles. Look in the past 100 years how far along medicine has come. If it wasn't God's will, He would have put a stop to it long ago. God is not antiprogress, if He was, He wouldnt' have given us such smart doctor's.

in Him;

-c-

I totally agree.

btw - I want to clarify something. I see nothing wrong with invitro being used to get a baby; I was just saying I get angry when people make use of invitro when they need it for this purpose but condemn others when they want to pursue it further so maybe they can get some help too.

Edited July 13, 2006 by anti-hillbilly

[O'Dannyboy]

God gave us guns and nuclear weapons also. Does that mean we would be offending God somehow by not using them? Some of you should rethink this. God gave the scientists the intelegence to created biological weapons but that doesn't mean they the weapons themselves are go, so neither should we consider invetro fertilization different. It's not what we create or discover that is the test, its how we react to or use this knowlege that is the test.