What are we supposed to "do" with Old Testament Law?

[Guest Troy Niems]

The OT law went along with the Old Covenent. Now, we have the New Covenent. I don't mean to say that we abandon the laws! But, like it's been said already, those laws were intended for the Israelites. We're now spiritual Israelites. We follow the law that's been put on our hearts.

10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel

after that time, declares the Lord.

I will put my laws in their minds

and write them on their hearts.

I will be their God,

and they will be my people.

11No longer will a man teach his neighbor,

or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,'

because they will all know me,

from the least of them to the greatest.

12For I will forgive their wickedness

and will remember their sins no more."

Hebrews 8:10-13.

31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.

Romans 3:31

Humbled by His infinite blessings,

Troy

[Floatingaxe]

Amen, brother!

[redeemed098]

People, can I enlighten you all on a very basic essential that no one has cared to mention.

They did NOT have refrigerators......

Regards,

Ben.

[Guest onethang]

In Mark 7, Jesus is not saying it

[apothanein kerdos]

Medically, it is better. Eat meat with no blood (blood carries disease), pigs are really a garbage dispoal, along with crabs/shrimp...etc.

So medically it's probably best to follow OT dietary laws. At the same time, there is nothing showing that GENTILES must adhere to them. Notice in the Book of Acts and even in some of Paul's letters, Paul does not advise for Gentiles to follow the Law.

[billie]

Plants are supposed to be fertilized with manure. Which of the clean fish are garbage disposals? Shrimp definately do not have scales. It must've been awhile since the last time you checked.

[apothanein kerdos]

Medically, it is better. Eat meat with no blood (blood carries disease), pigs are really a garbage dispoal, along with crabs/shrimp...etc.

So medically it's probably best to follow OT dietary laws. At the same time, there is nothing showing that GENTILES must adhere to them. Notice in the Book of Acts and even in some of Paul's letters, Paul does not advise for Gentiles to follow the Law.

"Organic" vegetables are garbage diposals.

Or didn't you know that manure is used to fertilize "organic" veggies?

Many of the "clean" fish are also scavengers/i.e. "garbage disposals" just as much as any other organism.

This whole "Garbage disposal" argument is bogus. As is the medical thing.

22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.

Hello? Beetles eat dung and other rotten matter, yet they are "clean". under the law.

The There is no medical basis for "Clean" and "unclean", its simply ceremonial religion.

Regarding Shrimp. Last time I checked, Shrimp have Tail fins and scales anyway.

None of the animals were excluded based on what they ate. They were excluded based on physical properties. For ocean life, the only requirement was "Fins and scales". For land animals it was for the most part, "cloven hoof and chews cud".

A dove is also a "clean" animal, but it too will eat almost anything put in front of it.

P.S. I have pigs and cows in my back yard. Both Pigs and cows eat the exact same things. I've never seen a cow turn its nose up to anything really. Years ago, we also used to raise goats, and goats will eat ANYTHING, and I mean anything. If there is such a thing as an animal that is a garbage disposal, a Goat, which is a "clean" animal, certainly qualifies.

I wonder what Jews do with the law when they discovered animals that did not know about at the time the law was given. Like Chickens or turkeys or ducks? Is a duck considered a "Swan" under OT law? what about chicken? is it unclean too?

Do you find it necessary to be rude to everyone you post to?

[billie]

Shrimp do have shells. I live in South Louisiana. Hello? I see shrimp all the time! They have a shell, exoskeleton, just like crabs, crawfish and lobsters! Do your homework next time.

[Guest onethang]

What a fun little detour. I have never heard anyone else claim that shrimp have fins and scales. Ok, so if they do, then they're okay to eat. But I'm pretty sure they don't, so they're not okay to eat no matter if you can or can't call them "garbage disposals." God never said don't eat these animals because they're unhealthy and they eat other gross stuff. Any speculation on the reasons they are forbidden is pretty much just speculation. Can we try to stick to scripture? BTW eating meat from a cow with mad cow disease is unhealthy and pretty stupid, but it

Edited August 6, 2006 by onethang