Pope to debate evolution with former students

[Fiosh]

btw...........did the Pope ever debate evolution with former students?? If so, where can one find the text?

Thanks,

F

[Old Timer]

btw...........did the Pope ever debate evolution with former students?? If so, where can one find the text?

Thanks,

F

Now that is on topic!

I copied this:

"Pope Benedict and his former doctoral students plan to publish the proceedings of their weekend seminar on evolution to promote a dialogue between faith and science on the origins of life, participants said. (9 days ago)"

I have not been able to find any publication of the debate.

Here some more news but dated Aug.23.

"Pope Benedict XVI has sacked his chief astronomer after a series of public clashes over the theory of evolution.

He has removed Father George Coyne from his position as director of the Vatican Observatory after the American Jesuit priest repeatedly contradicted the Holy See's endorsement of "intelligent design" theory, which essentially backs the "Adam and Eve" theory of creation.

Benedict favours intelligent design, which says God directs the process of evolution, over Charles Darwin

[Pax]

btw...........did the Pope ever debate evolution with former students?? If so, where can one find the text?

Thanks,

F

I have heard on EWTN that Pope Bendict tries to meet with his former students that he taught in the seminary every so often and discuss Philosophy. On this ocassion he decided to discuss evolution. I don't know where one could find the text. Sorry Old Timer for side tracking the topic.

[Arthur Durnan]

Well, perhaps you read but you didn't see. Jesus Christ, the very Head of the one true Christian Church Who never referred to Himself as a "Roman Catholic," and Who never actually became your "wafer-God," a tiny piece of bread, succinctly answers your query in the same passage of John Chapter Six, ie, verses 63,64. He Himself explained what He meant: "It's the Spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing....the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE." Did you read my post? Probably not. Your "wafer-God" tenet was first brought into play & named "transubstantiation" by Hildebert of Tours only in the early years of the twelfth-centuryand made a Roman article of faith by the Lateran Council in the beginning of the thirteenth-century according to the Cyclopedia Of Biblical, Theological & Ecclesiastical Literature. Jesus Christ knew nothing about it! Nor any of His disciples! Please, please, never let your will roar when your power only whispers and that, erroneously.

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[O'Dannyboy]

I think in this debate we are faced with the same blind spot as the Pharaces and Sagecese. I recal a bit of scripture where Jesus is in the temple, speaking and tells those attending to "drink my blood and eat my flesh","those who do not drink my blood and eat my flesh have no part in me". Those who heard him say this, of course, were incregulous. They too, took him literally and completely missed the meaning of what we was saying. Jesus told the Samaritan woman that if she were to drink the water that he was offering, it would become in her a spring and she would never thirst again. Do you think he was being literal then as well? Do you think he meant like a spring or a literal spring?

[Pax]

Well, perhaps you read but you didn't see. Jesus Christ, the very Head of the one true Christian Church Who never referred to Himself as a "Roman Catholic," and Who never actually became your "wafer-God," a tiny piece of bread, succinctly answers your query in the same passage of John Chapter Six, ie, verses 63,64. He Himself explained what He meant: "It's the Spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing....the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT and they are LIFE." Did you read my post? Probably not. Your "wafer-God" tenet was first brought into play & named "transubstantiation" by Hildebert of Tours only in the early years of the twelfth-centuryand made a Roman article of faith by the Lateran Council in the beginning of the thirteenth-century according to the Cyclopedia Of Biblical, Theological & Ecclesiastical Literature. Jesus Christ knew nothing about it! Nor any of His disciples! Please, please, never let your will roar when your power only whispers and that, erroneously.

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Hey Art why don't you start a new thread on this topic. I would love to defend the Church, but am not going to side tract Old Timers topic.

[billie]

Hey Pax!

[Arthur Durnan]

The "church", Pax? Why not underscore God's Holy Word, the Bible instead? Where did Jesus Christ, the very Head of the One True Christian Church, ever once in a Communion service practice what He on that occasion referred to as "transubstantiation" in the "sacrifice of a mass" wherein AN ACTUAL PIECE OF BREAD would become Christ's ACTUAL BLOOD, FLESH, BONES, SOUL & DIVINITY ala Mandrake? Truth to tell, such magic has only been reigning in the church of Rome since (officially in) the twelfth-century, my friend! Pure systematic sophistry of the first order!

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[Pax]

The "church", Pax? Why not underscore God's Holy Word, the Bible instead? Where did Jesus Christ, the very Head of the One True Christian Church, ever once in a Communion service practice what He on that occasion referred to as "transubstantiation" in the "sacrifice of a mass" wherein AN ACTUAL PIECE OF BREAD would become Christ's ACTUAL BLOOD, FLESH, BONES, SOUL & DIVINITY ala Mandrake? Truth to tell, such magic has only been reigning in the church of Rome since (officially in) the twelfth-century, my friend! Pure systematic sophistry of the first order!

http://arthurdurnan.freeyellow.com

Come on Art, start a new thread and I will be happy to educate you about what the Catholic Church teaches. The Church has always taught transubstantiation from the begining, this isn't something new. Do some research on St. Augustine and what he had to say about the Holy Eucharist (This is way before the 12th century). If you want to hate the Catholic Church thats fine, but at least educate yourself on the matter first.

[O'Dannyboy]

Hate, brother Pax, is an aweful strong word to be slinging around. If you wish to educate someone, don't you think it prudent to first set the example? We may not agree on the best way to represent Christ on earth, but we should at least agree to try our best to do so.