Atheism

[jscoleman]

An atheist is really a liar, they do believe, but they are angry at God and are are trying to provoke Him into revealing Himself in a way the Athiest know He will not do. Since God has already proven Himself, He has no need to go further. When the time comes they to will call Him Lord,

Um, atheists really do not believe, as hard it is for you to grasp.

It may not make sense to you in your current life situation for other people to not believe in what you take for granted. But it happens, and just because you cannot aghree with us doesn't invalidate our lack of beliefs/beliefs.

I know ghost don't exist, santa, tooth fairy and many granny said content that I was fed as I grew up. You don't find me argueing against something that does not exsist nor others for that matter. What is the big boo haha over something you say doesn't exsist? If it doesn't exsist, then why fight so hard against it. It is because of the Truth deep within you that you know and the anger you have in that It doesn't respond to your tactics.

[Arialia]

I know ghost don't exist, santa, tooth fairy and many granny said content that I was fed as I grew up. You don't find me argueing against something that does not exsist nor others for that matter. What is the big boo haha over something you say doesn't exsist? If it doesn't exsist, then why fight so hard against it. It is because of the Truth deep within you that you know and the anger you have in that It doesn't respond to your tactics.

The word is brouhaha, not boo haha.

XD

Anyway, I dislike Christianity so much because it has tainted the world with its evil grasp. It's caused so many problems and so much chaos in the world, it would be betyter off gone. I am also sick of this fairy tale burrowing into my government, breaking the Constitution, and corrupting people to do things they should never do.

In the words of my hero, Richard Dawkins:

By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.

And I hate to say this (not really), but I just don't believe in the Lie.

Sorry.

Edited September 22, 2006 by Arialia

[botticelli]

That's something great about scientists. When they're wrong, they change their views to fit the facts.

I don't care if you believe that evolution is wrong, or that God created the world 6000 years ago, or anything else. But evolution is scientific fact, whether you like it or not, and whether you choose to believe that your God drives it or not.

Then why are you here?

Edited September 23, 2006 by botticelli

[botticelli]

Sure, evolution doesn't explain self-awareness. But evolution is the theory about how present-day organisms came to be, not a philosophic view. It has nothing to do with how beings came into creation, or why, or any of that stuff.

Then why do all those teachers pesent it as if it is law?

[cjrose]

An atheist is really a liar, they do believe, but they are angry at God and are are trying to provoke Him into revealing Himself in a way the Athiest know He will not do. Since God has already proven Himself, He has no need to go further. When the time comes they to will call Him Lord,

It is not our place to judge athiests. To call them liars is only going to do harm, not good. It's their own personal belief system that will ultimately either bring them to the Lord or keep their backs turned. But there are athiests on this board I believe are being truthful in what they express. If we go around judging and condeming them what kind of an example are we as children of God? It is really difficult to see things from their perspective and I have tried but you don't know what's in their hearts, God does, only God does. Speak with love and encouragement and be a light along their path of darkness.

[cjrose]

Please replace your sarcasm detector.

Whoops. I feel smart now.

Y'all are just too funny for words

[Guest gracefilled62]

According to R. Dawkins our sole reason for being is gene replication. I heard recently that when identical twins are created they are EXACT replicas. Yet, everyone knows that they do not remain that way. Why? If they are just machines created to replicate to carry on the reason for being what need is there to have self-awareness and the ability to ask why am I here? Maybe self-awarness is a evolutionary glitch? I have come to see that for surviavl sake many people are able to avoid who they are, to create a false self. Children are extremely adaptable to insane situations. They can choose to be the reason for parents insanity because they are entirely dependent on the parents. In other words, their parents are their Gods. Angry GODs means children are not behaving correctly. THey cannot choose that parents are dysfunctional. Where is GOD in all this? He gives children the abilty to choose that it is their fault so that they may survive. If it is GODS (parents) that are broken, they would die. What does all this have to do with evolution? Self-awareness is both good and bad. To be aware, and to be subject to traumatic events, self-awareness is dangerous. Children in dysfunctional homes do not get the chance to really learn who they are - they have to become what is needed by parents. Perhaps some day they will find a gene that when turned off we return to pure animal nature with only the ability to survive, I tend to doubt it. Know what will be truly amazing is that if an ape, dolphin, whale, or some other animal ever asks us the question "why are we here?" I really hope that does happen.

peace

Dave

[redeemed098]

I know ghost don't exist, santa, tooth fairy and many granny said content that I was fed as I grew up. You don't find me argueing against something that does not exsist nor others for that matter. What is the big boo haha over something you say doesn't exsist? If it doesn't exsist, then why fight so hard against it. It is because of the Truth deep within you that you know and the anger you have in that It doesn't respond to your tactics.

The word is brouhaha, not boo haha.

XD

Anyway, I dislike Christianity so much because it has tainted the world with its evil grasp. It's caused so many problems and so much chaos in the world, it would be betyter off gone. I am also sick of this fairy tale burrowing into my government, breaking the Constitution, and corrupting people to do things they should never do.

In the words of my hero, Richard Dawkins:

By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.

And I hate to say this (not really), but I just don't believe in the Lie.

Sorry.

You cannot say you dont believe in the lie when you have no concept of Truth. To claim that you know something is a lie must require that you first know what truth IS...Otherwise it is merely your own perception that this is a lie...Anything that is of your own opinion is equal to LESS than really KNOWING...and of NO Value. It may be of value to YOU, but if it is NOT Truth then regardless of how valuable it is to YOU, it is in actual fact valueLESS...and serves no real purpose other than help YOU think you have a handle on the Truth. Thus you are sincere, however sincerely wrong.

Jesus said in the Bible that "unless a man is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God." Even if it is your own opinion that Jesus never lived, and Jesus never walked the earth and Jesus was liar or simply a good teacher, this is all put to bed if what Jesus said is Truth...Your opinion cannot alter truth..Your opinion does not have the power to determine Truth....And based on your very own premise you must realise surely that the LIE is completely DEPENDENT on Truths existence for its power to deceive to be successful....What makes Truth "Truth", is that it ISNT a lie.

What you need to focus on is whether or not what Jesus said is Truth...Because it doesnt matter whether you believe what others tell you. Theyre only telling you what Jesus said...It matters NOT whether you think, or are of the opinion that Jesus did not say these things...Your premise is completely obliterated and left open and exposed as a lie if in fact Jesus DID say these things.

"Unless a man repents, he shall perish."

Regards,

Ben.

[jscoleman]

Deuteronomy 30:11-14

11 For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.

12 It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

13 Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?

14 But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

[Guest gracefilled62]

According to R. Dawkins our sole reason for being is gene replication. I heard recently that when identical twins are created they are EXACT replicas. Yet, everyone knows that they do not remain that way. Why? If they are just machines created to replicate to carry on the reason for being what need is there to have self-awareness and the ability to ask why am I here? Maybe self-awarness is a evolutionary glitch? I have come to see that for surviavl sake many people are able to avoid who they are, to create a false self. Children are extremely adaptable to insane situations. They can choose to be the reason for parents insanity because they are entirely dependent on the parents. In other words, their parents are their Gods. Angry GODs means children are not behaving correctly. THey cannot choose that parents are dysfunctional. Where is GOD in all this? He gives children the abilty to choose that it is their fault so that they may survive. If it is GODS (parents) that are broken, they would die. What does all this have to do with evolution? Self-awareness is both good and bad. To be aware, and to be subject to traumatic events, self-awareness is dangerous. Children in dysfunctional homes do not get the chance to really learn who they are - they have to become what is needed by parents. Perhaps some day they will find a gene that when turned off we return to pure animal nature with only the ability to survive, I tend to doubt it. Know what will be truly amazing is that if an ape, dolphin, whale, or some other animal ever asks us the question "why are we here?" I really hope that does happen.

peace

Dave

Please organize your post, and I shall reply to it.

thanks for your input