How old is your church?

[Guest Angeledei]

Anbeledie........ will you give me a scripture for that lhis statement....... i mean one that backs it up...... i have not one

Do you want to know where St. Theresa is located in Sacred Scripture?? Cause you will not find her there. Nor will you find the word "Trinity" but you use the name Trinity all the time!

Oral teaching was accepted by Christians, just as they accepted the written teaching that came to them later. Jesus told his disciples: "He who hears you hears me, and he who rejects you rejects me" (Luke 10:16). The Church, in the persons of the apostles, was given the authority to teach by Christ; the Church would be his representative. He commissioned them, saying, "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

And how was this to be done? By preaching, by oral instruction: "So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ" (Rom. 10:17). The Church would always be the living teacher. It is a mistake to limit "Christ

[jesusislord]

IT IS WHAT U SAY THAT IS CONTARY TO SCRIPTURE......... THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG

ANSWER ME THAT WHY IS IT CONTARY TO SCRIPTURE..... IF IT FOLLOWS THE WORD THAT IT IS ALRIGHT BUT WHEN IT IS CONTARY TO THE WORD.... ALL MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT IF JESUS CHRIST IS THEIR SAAVIOUR

[Douay]

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I suppose this is where the mindset of the worldly differs from the mindset of the Spiritual.

Yes definitely. I prefer to have some form of tangible evidence for something not just things that exist in my head alone. Maybe an encyclopedia article, ancient artifact, historical texts, anything. Obviously, there must be some form of evidence to prove the existence of these people that you seem to have knowledge of, unless you gained this information through private revelation. You seem to allude to a group of people we have no name for, who were these Christians that were not Catholics? Were they the Marcionists, Montanists, or some other schism, or were they never part of the Church that Jesus founded to begin with thus could not be schismatic? If they have existed from the time of Christ until now, and are not part of the Catholic church, and the gates of Hell(and the Catholic Church) have not prevailed against them, who are they and where is the proof of their history?

Douay

[Guest Angeledei]

I ask, why do common Catholics not call each other saints?

Perhaps out of humility. I am nothing and Christ is everything. We are not worthy creatures unless graced by God Almighty.

As early as the year 100 a.d., Christians were honoring other Christians who had died, and asking for their intercession. Many people think that honoring saints was something the Church set up later, but it was part of Christianity from the very beginning. As a matter of fact, this practice came from a long-standing tradition in the Jewish faith of honoring prophets and holy people with shrines. The first saints were martyrs, people who had given up their lives for the Faith in the persecution of Christians.

The Church canonizes only those whose heroic virtue has been proved. And perfect charity before death destroys all sin, and all punishment due to sin. There is no place where such a soul could be, save in Heaven. Also miracles wrought by God in honor of such a one are His guarantee.

Traditional Roman Catholic

[jesusislord]

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.........

DOES GOD'S WORD CHANGE

YOU GOD DOES NOT CHANGE NOR HIS WORD CHANGE....

BUT WHEN MAN PUTS THINGS THAT ARE DIFFERENT THAN GOD'S WORD. THAT IS WHERE I HAVE THE PROBLEM

NOT THE WRITINGS NO BUT WHEN THEY ARE CONTARY TO WHAT GOD SAID IN THE BEGINNING ........

NOW DO U UNDERSTAND THAT

MANY THINGS IN THE RCC ARE CONTARY TO THE BIBLE

HAVE TO RUN NOW BYE GODSPEED TO ALL BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS ]

[Guest Angeledei]

IF IT FOLLOWS THE WORD THAT IT IS ALRIGHT BUT WHEN IT IS CONTARY TO THE WORD

This statement contradicts the very Scripture you claim! Did you READ my last post AT ALL?

[Guest Angeledei]

MANY THINGS IN THE RCC ARE CONTARY TO THE BIBLE

I have asked you this before and YOU WILL NOT ANSWER! WHAT THINGS SPECIFICALLY?

PS - so Godspeed to all "born again christians" How very Christian of you.....

[jesusislord]

ACTUALLY , WHAT YOUR ARE SAYING THAT THE RCC CAN DO AND SAY WHATEVER THAT THEY WANT TO. .. IS THAT RIGHT....

THEY HAVE NO GUIDELINES.... BUT WHAT MAN PUTS IN WORDS AND NOT HAVE TO ANSWSER TO THE SCRIPTURES........

YOU ARE WRONG...

DO HAVE TO RUN NOW FORSURE BYE NOW

[Douay]

I keep seeing it written that there are things in the Catholic Church that are contrary to the Bible. I have seen examples and have seen the Biblical support for those practises. Angeledei has pointed out that the Church was given it's teaching authority by Jesus. In fact it says in the Bible that everything that Jesus said or did could never be contained in any kind of written form. That makes it necessary for sources outside the Bible if you want to include ALL truth. I have maybe seen a handful of non-Catholic beliefs that are not contrary to the Bible posted on this site. Those ones that I find are contradictory to the Bible do have some sort of Biblical backing though, it all depends on how you look at it. Scrutinize objectively and the truth will always unfold before you.

Douay

[Douay]

ACTUALLY , WHAT YOUR ARE SAYING THAT THE RCC CAN DO AND SAY WHATEVER THAT THEY WANT TO. .. IS THAT RIGHT....

THEY HAVE NO GUIDELINES.... BUT WHAT MAN PUTS IN WORDS AND NOT HAVE TO ANSWSER TO THE SCRIPTURES........

YOU ARE WRONG...

DO HAVE TO RUN NOW FORSURE BYE NOW

Wow! You need to get off the soapbox for a while and see what message it is you are conveying to the rest of us. Noone ever said that the Catholic Church can do and say whatever they want and that it has no guidelines and does not answer to the scriptures. I assume you were making statements and not asking for clarification, if I am wrong, my apologies. If we can get past some of these prior misconceptions I think we could really answer a question or two here. These ideas about the Catholic Church come from people who took things way out of proportion to dramaticise something that they were personally against, they had no hard scriptural basis for their judgement.

Douay