Revelation 17:8b

[Christ's Free Servant]

I'm doing a Beth Moore Bible study, Living Beyond Yourself, and it has been good so far, but I came across something this morning that is troubling me.

She asked us to read Revelation 17:8 and to answer this question: "How long have names been written in the 'book of life'?

So, I read it, and this is what it said: "The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast..."

So, what does this mean, and how does it answer the question Beth posed?

Please, no arguing, attacking, name calling, etc. I'd just like some thoughts on what this could mean.

[Christ's Free Servant]

I'm doing a Beth Moore Bible study, Living Beyond Yourself, and it has been good so far, but I came across something this morning that is troubling me.

She asked us to read Revelation 17:8 and to answer this question: "How long have names been written in the 'book of life'?

So, I read it, and this is what it said: "The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast..."

So, what does this mean, and how does it answer the question Beth posed?

Please, no arguing, attacking, name calling, etc. I'd just like some thoughts on what this could mean.

Greetings,

The names were written in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of the world.

Those whose names are written in the Lambs Book of Life are the inheritors of Eternal Life, as such they shall be lead into all truth.

The truth as it pertains to Deity and also to Diabolos/Satan and his hoards, the unconverted, those whose names are not written in the Lambs Book of Life are in constant denial of hell and eternal punishment. The events described will not astonish us who already know these things the astonishment shall be for those who didn

[Christ's Free Servant]

The names were written in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of the world.

Thank you for your response. Can you give any other verses that back this up?

To back up what exactly? I have made six statements of which five are fundimental truths. As to verses try reading chapters 16, 17 & 18 in context of what is said about the beast.

Blessings, H.

Truster, what verses in the Bible state that our names were written in the Lambs Book of Life before the foundation of the world?

[Adarian]

John 17

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

1 Peter 1

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Christ was appointed for our salvation before the foundations of the earth were made, and our names were known to Him before these same foundations were put in place, so in knowing and controlling all things, our names who were to receive salvation were written in the book of life before the world was made.

[Christ's Free Servant]

Thanks Adarian,

Sue,

You quote Jerimaih 29:11 as a type of signature, it says,

[Christ's Free Servant]

John 17

24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 1

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

1 Peter 1

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Christ was appointed for our salvation before the foundations of the earth were made, and our names were known to Him before these same foundations were put in place, so in knowing and controlling all things, our names who were to receive salvation were written in the book of life before the world was made.

Adarian,

I absolutely agree with you except for just one point, and it is not that I disagree, I just still have not seen scriptural evidence of such. That is that our names were actually written in the Lambs book of life before the foundation of the world. I believe we were foreordained to receive this salvation and that it was God's will that our names be written in the book of life, but I still do not see scripturally where they were actually written in his book, unless the book referred to in Psalm 139 is talking about the book of life. That would mean that we were born believers and that we could only become unbelievers by rejecting Christ. In that case, there would be no need to receive Christ, because we would already be saved. Do you see my dilemma?

I'm not trying to be contentious. I asked the question because I'm seeking truth.

[Floatingaxe]

Psalm 139:16

your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

This is a description of predestination. God knew beforehand who would and who would not exist, as well as who would or would not accept Jesus as their King.

[Christ's Free Servant]

Psalm 139:16

your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

This is a description of predestination. God knew beforehand who would and who would not exist, as well as who would or would not accept Jesus as their King.

I agree with that. But, to me, the Lambs book of life is for those who have actually been regenerated. I believe he has a book where he writes down what he has planned for our lives, but is that the same book as the Lambs book of life? It just seems to me that if our names were written in there before we were born that we would have to be born as believers.

[Floatingaxe]

Psalm 139:16

your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.

This is a description of predestination. God knew beforehand who would and who would not exist, as well as who would or would not accept Jesus as their King.

I agree with that. But, to me, the Lambs book of life is for those who have actually been regenerated. I believe he has a book where he writes down what he has planned for our lives, but is that the same book as the Lambs book of life? It just seems to me that if our names were written in there before we were born that we would have to be born as believers.

I cannot see it that way. God knows who is His and who isn't...unbound by time and space.

[Christ's Free Servant]

Let's take a look carefully at what the verse actually says.

The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet it.

This doesn't say that the names were in the book from the foundation of the world, but it says the book has existed from the foundation of the world, at least it appears that way to me. If the names are in the book from the foundation of the world, that would mean that we have no need for a salvation experience because our names are already in the book or left out. It would mean we have no means of being saved if our names were left out. Based on other scriptures I gave, you cannot choose to have your name entered, yet God can blot it out. That doesn't make sense.

Thank you! Now we're getting somewhere.