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If Satan is the current ruler on Earth. That is until JESUS CHRIST returns. Does this mean that we that are in Christ are trespassers here on Earth. I said this at a Bible Study and got a couple of weird looks. Not 'you are wrong' type looks. But looks of agreement and perplex-ment.

I see it as this. When we are un-saved we are citizens of the kingdom of the faggot devil. Living a life of sweet oblivion. Blissfully alighting in our own ignorance. Blind to the fact that we are falling. And falling fast at that. Or in the case of some just sauntering vaugely downwards. :rolleyes: (old joke)

It is as if Satan and his minions are saying:

"Budism? That's no big deal. Meditate good times, C'mon'

'Hindu!? Well guess that means no more Hamburger."

'Muslim. Oh am I proud of that one. We did good when we made that, we did."

'Yoga!? Well a flexible life is good.' Satan says with a nervous laugh.

'Judaism? Uhh let's watch that one. Just to be sure, shall we. Boring legalism does not always work.'

'Satan worship!! Wow, i'm flattered. You should'nt have. A religion for me?'

So Satan allows those who go those ways to have their fun, so to speak. Content in the knowlede that he controls them.

But when Jesus is mentioned. AAAHOOOGAH!! AAAAHOOOOGAH!! The sirens blare. And demons go on the alert.

Once we are saved from damnation. Our citizenship, for lack of a better term, is revoked. And we become illegal aliens in what once was our homeland. And we are followed by those who would see us re-indoctrinated into Satan's kingdom on Earth.

We are, of course, never in danger of losing our salvation. Despite what Satan, and his minions, would try to convince us of. But still this is an interesting way of looking at things.

I take great joy in proclaiming that I AM A CITIZEN OF HEAVEN! AND AN ILLEGAL IMIGRANT, of sorts, IN AN EVIL WORLD. WORKING TO BRING OTHERS INTO THE REVOLUTION THAT IS CHRIST JESUS!!

-Any thoughts on this?

So that is what I pretty much said.

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If Satan is the current ruler on Earth. That is until JESUS CHRIST returns. Does this mean that we that are in Christ are trespassers here on Earth. I said this at a Bible Study and got a couple of weird looks. Not 'you are wrong' type looks. But looks of agreement and perplex-ment.

I see it as this. When we are un-saved we are citizens of the kingdom of the faggot devil. Living a life of sweet oblivion. Blissfully alighting in our own ignorance. Blind to the fact that we are falling. And falling fast at that. Or in the case of some just sauntering vaugely downwards. :rolleyes: (old joke)

It is as if Satan and his minions are saying:

"Budism? That's no big deal. Meditate good times, C'mon'

'Hindu!? Well guess that means no more Hamburger."

'Muslim. Oh am I proud of that one. We did good when we made that, we did."

'Yoga!? Well a flexible life is good.' Satan says with a nervous laugh.

'Judaism? Uhh let's watch that one. Just to be sure, shall we. Boring legalism does not always work.'

'Satan worship!! Wow, i'm flattered. You should'nt have. A religion for me?'

So Satan allows those who go those ways to have their fun, so to speak. Content in the knowlede that he controls them.

But when Jesus is mentioned. AAAHOOOGAH!! AAAAHOOOOGAH!! The sirens blare. And demons go on the alert.

Once we are saved from damnation. Our citizenship, for lack of a better term, is revoked. And we become illegal aliens in what once was our homeland. And we are followed by those who would see us re-indoctrinated into Satan's kingdom on Earth.

We are, of course, never in danger of losing our salvation. Despite what Satan, and his minions, would try to convince us of. But still this is an interesting way of looking at things.

I take great joy in proclaiming that I AM A CITIZEN OF HEAVEN! AND AN ILLEGAL IMIGRANT, of sorts, IN AN EVIL WORLD. WORKING TO BRING OTHERS INTO THE REVOLUTION THAT IS CHRIST JESUS!!

-Any thoughts on this?

So that is what I pretty much said.


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That's one way of looking at it. Because we are told to be from the world but not part of it.

But, this is how I see it:

Satan and his minions are like the palestinians. They claim Israel (earth in satan's case) as their own. The dwell on it and kill for it and lie for it. They are the trespassers, because the world belongs to God and Israel belongs to the Jews, because God gave it to them. Just because God allows satan to reign on Earth, doesn't mean he allows satan to rule over it.

reign: To hold the title of monarch, but with limited authority (that was the best example I could find that was relevant to my point)

rule: to exercise authority, dominion, or sovereignty. (The only one that can do that is God)

both definitions were from dictionary.com.

We are told to not be a part of the world because of it's corrupt status. Once God purifies it of all evil, satanic and man-made, then we can be part of it, because it will be pure and Holy at that time. That was God's plan all along. He created Earth for us to dwell on and rule over, but Satan tried to interfere with God's plan and will pay the ultimate price for his actions. Those that ally themselves with him, will never inherit the earth. They have authority over it right now, but that is all about to change.

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That's one way of looking at it. Because we are told to be from the world but not part of it.

But, this is how I see it:

Satan and his minions are like the palestinians. They claim Israel (earth in satan's case) as their own. The dwell on it and kill for it and lie for it. They are the trespassers, because the world belongs to God and Israel belongs to the Jews, because God gave it to them. Just because God allows satan to reign on Earth, doesn't mean he allows satan to rule over it.

reign: To hold the title of monarch, but with limited authority (that was the best example I could find that was relevant to my point)

rule: to exercise authority, dominion, or sovereignty. (The only one that can do that is God)

both definitions were from dictionary.com.

We are told to not be a part of the world because of it's corrupt status. Once God purifies it of all evil, satanic and man-made, then we can be part of it, because it will be pure and Holy at that time. That was God's plan all along. He created Earth for us to dwell on and rule over, but Satan tried to interfere with God's plan and will pay the ultimate price for his actions. Those that ally themselves with him, will never inherit the earth. They have authority over it right now, but that is all about to change.

WOW!! Awesome thoughts. Sometimes HE allows us to amaze ourselves.


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Thanks Mikado. I just want to encourage believers and seekers that things will ultimately get better for the faithful. I also want to warn the others of what will happen if they reject Christ and fall for the lies of Satan. There are many people that have already fallen for those lies and there is nothing more we can do for them, except pray and let God influence their lives.

Past biblical history shows that those that can be saved, repent when faced with God's judgement, while the others harden their hearts and hate God more. Sheep and Goats. Wheat and Tares. We are inherently different from them and there is no hope for those people. For the life of me, I cannot understand why some can be reached and others cannot.

Some people intentionally confuse predestination with omnipotence and use that as an excuse for their sins. They say, "I was born that way, God can't change me, how can I be held accountable for my actions when they were decided for me?" God says our names are written in the Book of Life. While He knows what decisions we will make in life, He doesn't control them, though I am sure He tries to influence them from time to time. Our names are either there or they are not.

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