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Baptism by fire... What does it mean?

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Baptism of the Holy Spirit. :noidea:

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The "baptism of fire" is only mentioned in two places in the Bible:

"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." (Matthew 3:11)

"John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."" (Luke 3:16)

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It means the work of the Holy Spirit, commonly called the "baptism of the Holy Spirit" which is given to each and every believer.

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I believe Gehenna is the baptism by fire.

Believers are baptised in water (Christ). As for those who die in their sins (unbelievers), they shall be baptised in fire. And considering how sin has permanent, eternal consequences (that is, when one is without Christ as their mediator), the baptism is everlasting.

The Bible mentions the baptism by fire in only two instances. And nowhere does it say believers will be baptised in fire. :wub:

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The "baptism of fire" is only mentioned in two places in the Bible:

"I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire." (Matthew 3:11)

"John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."" (Luke 3:16)

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Grace and peace from God and from the Lord to all!

Mat. 3:11 and Luk 3:16, using the KJV, reads "...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire."

It is very important to note both agencies (so to speak) used for baptism by our Lord Jesus Christ. From above scripture, we see there are two distinct agencies: The Holy Ghost and Fire. Both can also be personified.

Assuming we know who the Holy Ghost is and also who He ministers to (those who are saved), we can also learn from scripture (Heb. 1:7 & 14; also inferred in Acts 2:3) who is meant by fire.

From the scriptures, we see clearly that angels are spirits that minister to those who shall be heirs of salvation (those who shall be saved and made subject to the everlasting Salvation of God; for as long as He remains the Salvation of God forever, we shall remain heirs of salvation forever) and they are made flames of fire.

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John was speaking to a multitude. Some would be baptized with the Holy Ghost; others, with fire. The faithful with the HG; the unfaithful with eternal flame. That is my interpretation.

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