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The Bible tells us that Cain built a City called Enoch, Jubal invented invented musical instruments, and Tubal Cain invented metal working. Then after the Flood, Ham's son Nimrod built the tower of Babel.

Is there a message here? Why does GOD make it a point to relate this information to us? Does all this information fit together or is each item independent of the others?

What do you think?

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These show the various stages of man's fall.

First man fell to self (Adam, in the garden), then man fell to the world and culture (from Cain to Noah), then man fell to human government (as represented by the tower of Babel).  These three things - self, the world (culture), and human government, all still need to be overcome by the believers.  Yet Christ died to these things and for these things.

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I thought that nimrod's tower represented religion.

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I thought that nimrod's tower represented religion.

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Make that four......I forgot about religion. :rofl:

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OkieJack:

Great topic!  And oh, how I would like to be able to recall ...

About a year ago, a man passed through around here where I live in the Midwest.  He used to use mules, but now he uses a small tractor to pull his

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Lee,

Thanks.  I mentioned culture because this is included as a dividing factor of the believers in the New Testament, where Paul says that in the one new man there can not be slave or freeman, barbarian or sythian, etc.  Human culture could be included with cities (which also includes the world).

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Cain killed Able. Then GOD drove Cain away from Adam and family. Cain took one of his sisters with him when he left or came back and got one later.

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Gen 4:12  When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

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A fugitive and a vagabond built the frirst city.

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Gen 4:16-17  And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.""""""""""""""

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How big a city would Cain need to build? It seems that a big house would have met the need. Is a big house a city?

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How big a city would Cain need to build? It seems that a big house would have met the need. Is a big house a city?

Another "question of the ages."  People have been asking this for centuries.  Here's my view....

The Bible says that Adam and Eve both lived outside the garden for over 100 years.  If you read Genesis 5 the generations of Adam are recorded.  Now, we know that in the Bible, women are never mentioned in geneologies (with exception to Christ's geneologies in Matthew and Luke).  It is conceivable, therefore, that Adam and Eve had over 100 children.  Furthermore, if you look at the ages of his children, you will see that they also lived over 100 years each.  In fact, Adam's son Seth lived 912 years!  Imagine the number of grandchildren Adam had!  Also, since these children lived so long, it is very possible that Adam lived to see several generations produced from his offspring.  Now that's a lot of folks!  Eventually you would need a city built pretty fast to hold them all.

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