Ihave heard some people say...

[Amhis]

My friend I keep the T en Commandments to the best of my ability,but I do not do so to gain my salvation,I could never earn it nor do i derseve it. I keep the law for the Glory of God. Hope this helps. Love in Christ littlejoe

I agree with littlejoe, and I would add that a truly saved person has a strong desire to keep God's law, not because they have to in order to be saved, but because they want to. The desires of the heart, mind, and soul are completely reborn, which in turn gives us a strong desire to please God in every thing we do..

[Giaour]

Jesus said to hang the law on these two commandments.

Love God

Love eachother.

Now, IF you love eachother- you will not steal, not covet, not murder etc.

So technically if you follow these 2 laws, the cover the 10 commandments.

[jackie d]

we are not to live by the letter of the law because Christ took the law when He died on the cross as the final sacrifice. However that was not meant to erase the 10 commandments but ritual of sacrifice and offering for atonement of sin.

The 10 commandments can be covered by following the 2 that Jesus commanded love God and love each other. I don't think that the 10 commandments are any less important because of what Jesus commanded, as Gaiour stated if we keep those 2 then we most likely won't do the other 8.

[graymousey]

I have heard people say that all you have to do is believe in Jesus Christ and you are saved. I'm not here to batter that, but if people go around and say just that. It just seems to me that they are saying you don't have to say a prayer or get the holy Ghost or whatever you believe. I think we need to be careful how we say it because even the devils believe and tremble. Their is a difference from believing with your heart and believing with your head. I just think it confuses sinners to say all you have to do is believe. The bible has said (paraphrasing becasue don't have bible with me) If you will believe and confess with your mouth you shall be saved.

Nicholus, what you say is true. It is not enough to believe, one also has to have a determination to follow Christ. Also, we have to have a willing heart to repudiate our sins; ---since sins must be left behind. Christ will save us, but never together with our sins.

We were born with a sinful nature, and if one has that nature only, he cannot get to heaven: he needs to obtain the divine nature in order to become the child of God.

When one looks into the "mirror" of the law, from it one can see that he is a sinner.

To believe in the Lord Jesus means to trust that He has the power to forgive one's sins. But Christ will not be one's Saviour, unless He also can be the Lord in his life.

When somebody turns to Christ with a penitent heart for forgiveness, and his will is set to follow Christ as His Lord, and he is determined to obey Christ, ----then the Holy Spirit regenerates this person, and in him the divine nature is born. The Holy Spirit takes residence in this new nature. This is the new birth.

All those things are needed in order that one could be biblically saved. But all that is God's free gift, and salvation is by faith alone through God's grace alone.

Edited November 7, 2006 by graymousey

[Beta]

My friend I keep the T en Commandments to the best of my ability,but I do not do so to gain my salvation,I could never earn it nor do i derseve it. I keep the law for the Glory of God. Hope this helps. Love in Christ littlejoe

Good post, well put, thank you. I agree we can not work our way into salvation but since the commandments are ' good works ' given us by God and not our own fleshly works they are counted and accepted by God. James has quite a lot to say on this.

[Beta]

tech. difficulties...sorry

Do you think you could be a little clearer please ? I get the feeling you are not in tune with keeping the commands, if so what do you do with the scripts I mentioned ? ignore them ? wouldn't that make you a lawless person who pleases himself ? Not even our human judicial system would stand for that , hence our overflowing prisons. Wouldn't God like equal law and order in HIS realm ?

[Beta]

Great posts all, thank you so much.

Technically the 2 great Commands should work, but we only need to look at society to see that they don't. Prisons are overflowing, criminals walk our streets, enter our homes, terrorists threatening entire countries. Sick people are everywhere, ungodly behaviour even allowed to infiltrate church leadership and consequently turned a blind eye to in congregations.

I can't help thinking we need things spelt out in greater detail to get the hang of what exactly God wants us to do and how to maintain HIS standards and principles. The world is not reflecting them because we put our own interpretations on ' LOVE ' contained in the 2 Commands. Even the 10 are only a summary and don't tell us everything ,but are still better than left to ourselves confusing God's Love with ours.

I am not decrying the efforts of those genuinely wanting to please God but the state of the world in general. This should be of concern to all of us awaiting the return of Jesus Christ who will restore law and order with personal interpretations a thing of the past.