KarenJo5 Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 225 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/04/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/11/1960 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Some of my daughters kin folk attend a church here in MS. called Church of Jesus Name, I wonder if they are part of the Pentacostal Oneness group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted November 9, 2006 John 14:7 [ The Father Revealed ] If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him. John 14:9 Jesus said to him, Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, Show us the Father? John 10:30 I and my Father are one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Isn't "Christ" just a title too....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrose Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,580 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/13/1960 Share Posted November 9, 2006 What is being proposed here is a form of an age old heresy called modalism. It denies the concept of the Trinity and holds that the Father, Som, and Holy Spirit are just titles for God and reflective of How God acts at different times. It is not scriptural modalism... hmm I must have missed that ism in my Power Vocab post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kansasdad Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 19 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,227 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 6 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/10/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/19/1964 Share Posted November 9, 2006 What is being proposed here is a form of an age old heresy called modalism. It denies the concept of the Trinity and holds that the Father, Som, and Holy Spirit are just titles for God and reflective of How God acts at different times. It is not scriptural modalism... hmm I must have missed that ism in my Power Vocab post Modalism Modalism is probably the most common theological error concerning the nature of God. It is a denial of the Trinity which states that God is a single person who, throughout biblical history, has revealed Himself in three modes, or forms. Thus, God is a single person who first manifested himself in the mode of the Father in Old Testament times. At the incarnation, the mode was the Son. After Jesus' ascension, the mode is the Holy Spirit. These modes are consecutive and never simultaneous. In other words, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit never all exist at the same time, only one after another. Modalism denies the distinctiveness of the three persons in the Trinity even though it retains the divinity of Christ. Present day groups that hold to forms of this error are the United Pentecostal and United Apostolic Churches. They deny the Trinity, teach that the name of God is Jesus, and require baptism for salvation. These modalist churches often accuse Trinitarians of teaching three gods. This is not what the Trinity is. The correct teaching of the Trinity is one God in three eternal coexistent persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Found this with MSN search K.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrose Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,580 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/13/1960 Share Posted November 9, 2006 What is being proposed here is a form of an age old heresy called modalism. It denies the concept of the Trinity and holds that the Father, Som, and Holy Spirit are just titles for God and reflective of How God acts at different times. It is not scriptural modalism... hmm I must have missed that ism in my Power Vocab post Modalism Modalism is probably the most common theological error concerning the nature of God. It is a denial of the Trinity which states that God is a single person who, throughout biblical history, has revealed Himself in three modes, or forms. Thus, God is a single person who first manifested himself in the mode of the Father in Old Testament times. At the incarnation, the mode was the Son. After Jesus' ascension, the mode is the Holy Spirit. These modes are consecutive and never simultaneous. In other words, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit never all exist at the same time, only one after another. Modalism denies the distinctiveness of the three persons in the Trinity even though it retains the divinity of Christ. Present day groups that hold to forms of this error are the United Pentecostal and United Apostolic Churches. They deny the Trinity, teach that the name of God is Jesus, and require baptism for salvation. These modalist churches often accuse Trinitarians of teaching three gods. This is not what the Trinity is. The correct teaching of the Trinity is one God in three eternal coexistent persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Found this with MSN search K.D. Yep what KD just posted!!! Great search Dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biblicist Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm Thought this was an interesting site as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrose Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,580 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/16/2005 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/13/1960 Share Posted November 9, 2006 http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-modalism.htm Thought this was an interesting site as well. y'all should go to apologetics and add this cool stuff!! More isms YaY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted November 9, 2006 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.87 Content Count: 43,796 Content Per Day: 6.20 Reputation: 11,243 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted November 9, 2006 Floating Axe, do you believe in Oneness (modalism) or in the Trinity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Nolan Posted November 10, 2006 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 99 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 2 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/05/1947 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 This sounds like a pentecostal oneness argument again. It is incorrect to believe that people only did things in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus himself said to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, ... not singluar, plural... all three titles, if you want to call them that, are in the one name. The second name is the Lord Jesus Christ... it is not the same. Two different names and they hold different authority. Yet there is but one God. No arguement, just a thought. Interesting responses and yet Jesus said He and His Father are ONE. Having been warned by moderators to not persue this topic further I withdraw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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