What is grounds for divorce?

[sheya joie]

I Cor. 7:28: "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned."

Remarriage is allowed after divorce.

Sammy

You took this verse out of context.

This was speaking to virgins.

The context:

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.

The second half of verse 28 is obviously talking about virgins, but Sammy was quoting the first half of the verse. Who is that addressed to? The person in verse 27, who is loosed from a wife? Because that's what the passage looks like to me.

[SammySmile]

I Cor. 7:28: "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned."

Remarriage is allowed after divorce.

Sammy

You took this verse out of context.

This was speaking to virgins.

The context:

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.

The second half of verse 28 is obviously talking about virgins, but Sammy was quoting the first half of the verse. Who is that addressed to? The person in verse 27, who is loosed from a wife? Because that's what the passage looks like to me.

Yes, I took nothing out of context. Just the opposite. The word "loosed" literally means "destroyed." In other words, if one finds themselves with a destroyed or terminated marriage, remarriage is not sin.

[Guest Biblicist]

I Cor. 7:28: "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned."

Remarriage is allowed after divorce.

Sammy

You took this verse out of context.

This was speaking to virgins.

The context:

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.

The second half of verse 28 is obviously talking about virgins, but Sammy was quoting the first half of the verse. Who is that addressed to? The person in verse 27, who is loosed from a wife? Because that's what the passage looks like to me.

Yes, I took nothing out of context. Just the opposite. The word "loosed" literally means "destroyed." In other words, if one finds themselves with a destroyed or terminated marriage, remarriage is not sin.

Comeon guys, how is this supposed to help support Rosie with her marriage problems? She did not ask about remarriage after divorce. Lets consider her feelings at this point.

Rosie, how ya doin hon?

[SammySmile]

Well, it's obvious Rosie isn't doing well at all. Her husband wants to divorce her. The good news is she can be forgiven by God and rebuild her life, regardless of her husband's decision.

[LightofJesus]

I Cor. 7:28: "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned."

Remarriage is allowed after divorce.

Sammy

You took this verse out of context.

This was speaking to virgins.

The context:

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.

The second half of verse 28 is obviously talking about virgins, but Sammy was quoting the first half of the verse. Who is that addressed to? The person in verse 27, who is loosed from a wife? Because that's what the passage looks like to me.

Yes, I took nothing out of context. Just the opposite. The word "loosed" literally means "destroyed." In other words, if one finds themselves with a destroyed or terminated marriage, remarriage is not sin.

Verse 27 says

Art thou bound unto a wife?

Asking if they are married and continues to say:

seek not to be loosed.

Which is saying do not seek to seperate! Then it goes on to say:

Art thou loosed from a wife?

That means no longer with your wife, then it says:

seek NOT a wife.

Now 28 goes in the same direction as verse 27 did.

But if thou marry,

This part is like answering the question at the beginning of verse 27.

It goes on to say that when you marry there will be trouble It does not say anything at all that it is OK to remarry!

[Guest Biblicist]

Well, it's obvious Rosie isn't doing well at all. Her husband wants to divorce her. The good news is she can be forgiven by God and rebuild her life, regardless of her husband's decision.

Sammy,

I think we should let Rosie speak for herself please.

I would really like to know why you think that Rosie needs to be forgiven by God for the divorce. How is it her fault that her husband can not forgive her? Are her marital sins somehow worse than his? Ya know what, don't answer that, I don't think it would do Rosie any good for you to critique her marriage.

Are you under the impression that a woman needs a man to rebuild her life? I only know of one (1) remarriage that has truly been blessed by the Lord and that, I believe, is because the divorce happened before salvation and the second marriage happened after salvation. It was truly ordained by God how things worked in that womans life.

I feel that to many woman, and men, jump into second relationships too soon. Their judgement is off because of being hurt and they end up going from one bad relationship to another. If Rosie does find herself single again, God forbid, I think she should take plenty of time to assess the damage and learn to love herself again before she even considers moving on. Time, and the Lord, heals all wounds, not another relationship. God is our ultimate comforter, healer and friend.

In His Grip,

[SammySmile]

I Cor. 7:28: "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned."

Remarriage is allowed after divorce.

Sammy

You took this verse out of context.

This was speaking to virgins.

The context:

1Co 7:27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.

1Co 7:28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned.

The second half of verse 28 is obviously talking about virgins, but Sammy was quoting the first half of the verse. Who is that addressed to? The person in verse 27, who is loosed from a wife? Because that's what the passage looks like to me.

Yes, I took nothing out of context. Just the opposite. The word "loosed" literally means "destroyed." In other words, if one finds themselves with a destroyed or terminated marriage, remarriage is not sin.

Verse 27 says

Art thou bound unto a wife?

Asking if they are married and continues to say:

seek not to be loosed.

Which is saying do not seek to seperate! Then it goes on to say:

Art thou loosed from a wife?

That means no longer with your wife, then it says:

seek NOT a wife.

Now 28 goes in the same direction as verse 27 did.

But if thou marry,

This part is like answering the question at the beginning of verse 27.

It goes on to say that when you marry there will be trouble It does not say anything at all that it is OK to remarry!

"LOJ"

With all due respect, you're just not understanding the plain text.

You say, "This part is like answering the question at the beginning of verse 27."

My question to you is, How is saying "But if thou marry, thou hast not sinned," answering "Art thou bound to a wife? seek not to be loosed"? I think you need to read the passage carefully, my friend.

You say, "It does not say anything at all that it is OK to remarry!"

You are not correct. That is exactly what it says.

Again, "Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. But and if thou marry, thou hast NOT sinned."

The plain meaning of the passage is clear.

[SammySmile]

Well, it's obvious Rosie isn't doing well at all. Her husband wants to divorce her. The good news is she can be forgiven by God and rebuild her life, regardless of her husband's decision.

Sammy,

I think we should let Rosie speak for herself please.

I would really like to know why you think that Rosie needs to be forgiven by God for the divorce. How is it her fault that her husband can not forgive her? Are her marital sins somehow worse than his? Ya know what, don't answer that, I don't think it would do Rosie any good for you to critique her marriage.

Are you under the impression that a woman needs a man to rebuild her life? I only know of one (1) remarriage that has truly been blessed by the Lord and that, I believe, is because the divorce happened before salvation and the second marriage happened after salvation. It was truly ordained by God how things worked in that womans life.

I feel that to many woman, and men, jump into second relationships too soon. Their judgement is off because of being hurt and they end up going from one bad relationship to another. If Rosie does find herself single again, God forbid, I think she should take plenty of time to assess the damage and learn to love herself again before she even considers moving on. Time, and the Lord, heals all wounds, not another relationship. God is our ultimate comforter, healer and friend.

In His Grip,

Mr. Biblicist,

I know little to nothing about Rosie. I believe she mentioned a moral failure on her part and the fact her husband couldn't forgive her. All I said was that she can -- if she hasn't already -- be made anew by the power of Christ. Many times when folks find themselves in the grip of divorce, the church likes to come in and cast all kinds of condemnation and bondage. I was only pointing out that that should not be the case. You seem to be harping on something that's not there.

You say, "Are you under the impression that a woman needs a man to rebuild her life?" -- No. I never said that. Don't know where you got that from.

You say, "I only know of one (1) remarriage that has truly been blessed by the Lord and that, I believe, is because the divorce happened before salvation and the second marriage happened after salvation."

That's nice. I know of many remarriages that have been blessed, and I know many folks who have not divorced and remarried, stayed bound to a marriage or stayed single because the church told them to, and they lived their lives in torment and misery, and also the children were forced to grow up without a father or mother.

I never insinuated that someone should leave a marriage and hastily run to another. It is, however, very erroneous to believe that one cannot be remarried after a divorce. I don't care if the divorce was pre-salvation or post-salvation. The church needs to get it right. The Bible does not condemn remarriage after a divorce. That's the way God laid it out in the Old Testament. And with proper interpretation, we see that's the way He's laid it out in the New Testament.

[Guest rosietoes01]

Just recently my husband told me that he does not want a divorce but seperation... for me and the kids to go find somewhere to live temperaroliy, and for me to obviously get a job. He gets to stay in the 4 bedroom house and force me to after 5 years of being a stay at home mom, get a job and support myself and the kids for approximately 6 months. I agree there should be seperation, but I think that it's a lot easier for one man to leave to a relative's or friend's house than me and the 2 kids. But "he's paying for the house, he gets to stay here". I am forcing divorce more than he is... he hasn't forgiven me yet and keeps telling me he probobly wont ever. that is just holding us both in bondage... i kinda just wish he'd make a decision. It's been a rough 2 1/2 years. thank you all for your help and input.

[Guest Biblicist]

Just recently my husband told me that he does not want a divorce but seperation... for me and the kids to go find somewhere to live temperaroliy, and for me to obviously get a job. He gets to stay in the 4 bedroom house and force me to after 5 years of being a stay at home mom, get a job and support myself and the kids for approximately 6 months. I agree there should be seperation, but I think that it's a lot easier for one man to leave to a relative's or friend's house than me and the 2 kids. But "he's paying for the house, he gets to stay here". I am forcing divorce more than he is... he hasn't forgiven me yet and keeps telling me he probobly wont ever. that is just holding us both in bondage... i kinda just wish he'd make a decision. It's been a rough 2 1/2 years. thank you all for your help and input.

Rosie, hon, I am so sorry.

My husband says you should not move out. If you move out it is likely [depending on where you live] he will not be financially responsible for you or the children. He also says if your husband is a Christian he should grow up. Biblically, even if he has Biblical grounds for divorce, according to Gods word he is still financially responslible for his wife and children.

The two things you can do is get a Nouthetic councilor, you can find one on the NANC.org website. https://www.nanc.org/directory.asp?sortby=l_name&sub=5 And find a Christian lawyer. That way you can get personal counseling from Gods word and legal advise.

I believe it is possible for your husband's heart to be softened and for your marriage to be saved. However, I do not believe you should neglect preparing for the worst. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. I have seen many people go on believing that things would get better and in the end losing out on everything cause they did not prepare for the worst. Lots of hugs.

In His Grip,

Biblicist