Trinity?

[Andrew07]

Considering these verses why do we say that there is only a triune God? Just wondering? Is this Melchisedec Jesus (he has some of the attributes of God and Jesus) in the OT just under another name? And what about the seven Spirits of God? Thanks

Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Revelation 1:4

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 3:1

And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 4:5

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation 5:6

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

[TomPJr]

Considering these verses why do we say that there is only a triune God? Just wondering? Is this Melchisedec Jesus (he has some of the attributes of God and Jesus) in the OT just under another name? And what about the seven Spirits of God? Thanks

Hebrews 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Revelation 1:4

John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

Revelation 3:1

And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Revelation 4:5

And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

Revelation 5:6

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

I do not believe that Melchisedec is Jesus. I believe that the reference is to reflect his high stature in the priesthood. He represented Jesus. He was the High priest on earth. Jesus is our true High Priest.

The seven spirits are not God. They are figurative. I believe that they represent the Holyspirit throughout the ages in conjunction with the seven churches that it speaks of in Revelation. I can get much scripture but I don't have time right now.

As far as the trinity goes....we must first understand the word God.

In the bible there are three different words that are translated God. Elohim - translated God...is plural, meaning more than one, or Godhead, or God Family. God the father is God Singular. Jesus is God Singular. If we get the word God from Elohim, it means both.

To make myself clear... I do not believe God the Father, and Jesus are the same person. They are one in the respect that they are on the same page with the same agenda, and mindset. Just as a man and wife become one flesh. Of course My wife and I aren't the same person, but we are one, in agreement with our plans. The same is with God. Jesus is the son of God(the Father), and he is a God. It's kind of like you and I are both people. My dad is my father, and we are both people.

Jesus in fact created this world and the universe. We see that in John.

I hope I answered your question... maybe I generated some new ones...ha ha

will be glad to expand later..

Tom

[WillingToDie]

and he is a God. It's kind of like you and I are both people.

Tom

So Jesus was a God and His Father was another God?

yeah that's...borderline polytheism.

[Guest Jude 1:3]

To make myself clear... I do not believe God the Father, and Jesus are the same person. They are one in the respect that they are on the same page with the same agenda, and mindset.

Sounds like Mormonism to me.

Three gods in one.

[eric]

To make myself clear... I do not believe God the Father, and Jesus are the same person. They are one in the respect that they are on the same page with the same agenda, and mindset.

Sounds like Mormonism to me.

Three gods in one.

Sounds like bilge water to me.