A passage that seems unconscionable.

[Floatingaxe]

Guys,

Do you realize how much effort you are putting into justifying these old religions? when it says rape it is really rape. Even today some belivers do this to innocent people in the promised land! People are equal. there is no special people or land in the world. We have brains and we can understand what is right and what is wrong. We dont need to learn it from these books.

By the way, some guys here are talking about God changed during the history. He was violent and rapper then changed to a good God. Isn't it ridiculous?

God hasn't changed. He's the same yesterday, today and forever. The problem here is that the scriptures in question never mention anyone being raped. That is conjecture on the part of some of the posters.

By the way, I don't have to try to justify "old religions." I am defending the true and living God from slanderous attacks. Based on your comments, is it a pretty fair assumption that you are a non-believer?

I am a believer in what makes sense and helps the world to be a better place to live. I do believe in Torah, Bible , Quran and so on as long as they make sense. Let's not make everything black or white, God or the devil. There are some wrong ideas just like this one. if someone else has a better idea let's just accept it and move on. Look at the most religious countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel and Italy(fairly) or even George Bush as a fundamentalist and see how they kill people, human rights violations, crime rate , intolerance and you name it.

I hope you don't get offended by this post as we all belive in freedom of speech(by the way,freedom of speech is a good example of a concept that the most of religions don't support it but it really works).

How did you get into the Inner Court? So you reject the Word of God? You don't believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour?

[Guest Canadian75]

Guys,

Do you realize how much effort you are putting into justifying these old religions? when it says rape it is really rape. Even today some belivers do this to innocent people in the promised land! People are equal. there is no special people or land in the world. We have brains and we can understand what is right and what is wrong. We dont need to learn it from these books.

By the way, some guys here are talking about God changed during the history. He was violent and rapper then changed to a good God. Isn't it ridiculous?

God hasn't changed. He's the same yesterday, today and forever. The problem here is that the scriptures in question never mention anyone being raped. That is conjecture on the part of some of the posters.

By the way, I don't have to try to justify "old religions." I am defending the true and living God from slanderous attacks. Based on your comments, is it a pretty fair assumption that you are a non-believer?

I am a believer in what makes sense and helps the world to be a better place to live. I do believe in Torah, Bible , Quran and so on as long as they make sense. Let's not make everything black or white, God or the devil. There are some wrong ideas just like this one. if someone else has a better idea let's just accept it and move on. Look at the most religious countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel and Italy(fairly) or even George Bush as a fundamentalist and see how they kill people, human rights violations, crime rate , intolerance and you name it.

I hope you don't get offended by this post as we all belive in freedom of speech(by the way,freedom of speech is a good example of a concept that the most of religions don't support it but it really works).

How did you get into the Inner Court? So you reject the Word of God? You don't believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour?

Please read this again:

"I do believe in Torah, Bible , Quran and so on as long as they make sense."

[Floatingaxe]

Guys,

Do you realize how much effort you are putting into justifying these old religions? when it says rape it is really rape. Even today some belivers do this to innocent people in the promised land! People are equal. there is no special people or land in the world. We have brains and we can understand what is right and what is wrong. We dont need to learn it from these books.

By the way, some guys here are talking about God changed during the history. He was violent and rapper then changed to a good God. Isn't it ridiculous?

God hasn't changed. He's the same yesterday, today and forever. The problem here is that the scriptures in question never mention anyone being raped. That is conjecture on the part of some of the posters.

By the way, I don't have to try to justify "old religions." I am defending the true and living God from slanderous attacks. Based on your comments, is it a pretty fair assumption that you are a non-believer?

I am a believer in what makes sense and helps the world to be a better place to live. I do believe in Torah, Bible , Quran and so on as long as they make sense. Let's not make everything black or white, God or the devil. There are some wrong ideas just like this one. if someone else has a better idea let's just accept it and move on. Look at the most religious countries like Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Israel and Italy(fairly) or even George Bush as a fundamentalist and see how they kill people, human rights violations, crime rate , intolerance and you name it.

I hope you don't get offended by this post as we all belive in freedom of speech(by the way,freedom of speech is a good example of a concept that the most of religions don't support it but it really works).

How did you get into the Inner Court? So you reject the Word of God? You don't believe in Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour?

Please read this again:

"I do believe in Torah, Bible , Quran and so on as long as they make sense."

Yes, so you reject the Word of God, I see.

[Tubal-Cain]

God is not dismissing this practice as a a matter for civil authorities.

So you seem to be agreeing that an eye for an eye is justice. I mean God would not recommend an unjust practice for civil authorities. How was the killing of infants in line with an eye for an eye? You seem to be stuck with circular reasoning and can't give any real explanation.

It bears out that what I have said of this Atheistic system is true. It has borne fruit even in your own use of it to Judge God.

Which is certainly preferable to divine command theory ethics which can be used to justify any and every action.

You have striven at the third option which has left you with the belief that the Word of God is foolishness and simply not true.

A story can be non-historical and still true, just look at Jesus' parables.

Desire Utilitarianism is incompatible with Christianity because it lends itself to mans idea of Justice. Mans idea of Justice is wrong because mans mind and thoughts are tainted by sin.

God's word is written in human words and using human definitions. He seems to have no problem with human definitions of words.