Have you received the Holy Spirit?

[stevehut]

He wanted to pray over me so that I would specificaly 'receive the Spirit' and in turn speak in tounges. Boy, did I make my exit quickly before he could work his magic!

Good move.

In the Bible, the baptism of the holy spirit is mentioned in two places: Acts 2 and Acts 10. In both cases, it came without warning. No one ever received this gift by asking for it, or by receiving instruction.

Steve

[Iryssa]

Didn't Jesus Himself yell? I should think that as Jesus communicated, so he will continue to communicate through us. Didn't Jesus weep and wail? Yes, and so do many who are exercising tongues.

You know, all this emphasis on tongues is not what God would want. The Holy Spirit's anointing comes in many forms, and they are more conducive to building up the body than tongues is.

The weeping, wailing, and yelling by Jesus was not done in the context we're addressing. As a general rule, I think thse things can be done when appropriate.

[Floatingaxe]

Didn't Jesus Himself yell? I should think that as Jesus communicated, so he will continue to communicate through us. Didn't Jesus weep and wail? Yes, and so do many who are exercising tongues.

You know, all this emphasis on tongues is not what God would want. The Holy Spirit's anointing comes in many forms, and they are more conducive to building up the body than tongues is.

The weeping, wailing, and yelling by Jesus was not done in the context we're addressing. As a general rule, I think thse things can be done when appropriate.

Who is the Holy Spirit, but the Spirit of Jesus? Can He not do as He sees fit to do in us, His devoted children?

[Iryssa]

Didn't Jesus Himself yell? I should think that as Jesus communicated, so he will continue to communicate through us. Didn't Jesus weep and wail? Yes, and so do many who are exercising tongues.

You know, all this emphasis on tongues is not what God would want. The Holy Spirit's anointing comes in many forms, and they are more conducive to building up the body than tongues is.

The weeping, wailing, and yelling by Jesus was not done in the context we're addressing. As a general rule, I think thse things can be done when appropriate.

Who is the Holy Spirit, but the Spirit of Jesus? Can He not do as He sees fit to do in us, His devoted children?

He sure can...I just don't see why He would deem it necessary to make 50+ people in a room scream alound in chaotic tongues when the Bible clearly says that there should be order in the congregating of the saints and that there shouldn't be more than two or three people speaking at once.

[stevehut]

He sure can...I just don't see why He would deem it necessary to make 50+ people in a room scream alound in chaotic tongues when the Bible clearly says that there should be order in the congregating of the saints

Yup.

So the question becomes, not what God can do, but rather what God does do.

Steve

[Iryssa]

He sure can...I just don't see why He would deem it necessary to make 50+ people in a room scream alound in chaotic tongues when the Bible clearly says that there should be order in the congregating of the saints

Yup.

So the question becomes, not what God can do, but rather what God does do.

Steve

Precisely

[Floatingaxe]

Didn't Jesus Himself yell? I should think that as Jesus communicated, so he will continue to communicate through us. Didn't Jesus weep and wail? Yes, and so do many who are exercising tongues.

You know, all this emphasis on tongues is not what God would want. The Holy Spirit's anointing comes in many forms, and they are more conducive to building up the body than tongues is.

The weeping, wailing, and yelling by Jesus was not done in the context we're addressing. As a general rule, I think thse things can be done when appropriate.

Who is the Holy Spirit, but the Spirit of Jesus? Can He not do as He sees fit to do in us, His devoted children?

He sure can...I just don't see why He would deem it necessary to make 50+ people in a room scream alound in chaotic tongues when the Bible clearly says that there should be order in the congregating of the saints and that there shouldn't be more than two or three people speaking at once.

That is not what the scripture was talking about. People don't realize that there are 2 distinct tongues gifts: Ministry, which you are thinking about, requires more order and the minimum of three participating, and that gift requires an interpreter or one would have to keep quiet.

I am talking about prayer language, a gift of Grace. Most of us have a personal prayer language that we erupt into from time to time when we are all in corporate prayer. Appropriate, awesome and effective, especially when we are praying for something like someone's healing from a brain tumour, or a woman who has been discovered with thyroid cancer, or a child is born with a deadly heart defect--which we have done and all three have been miraculously healed. God's power is there and unleashed into the situation when the Holy Spirit is praying along with us! Amen!

[Iryssa]

Didn't Jesus Himself yell? I should think that as Jesus communicated, so he will continue to communicate through us. Didn't Jesus weep and wail? Yes, and so do many who are exercising tongues.

You know, all this emphasis on tongues is not what God would want. The Holy Spirit's anointing comes in many forms, and they are more conducive to building up the body than tongues is.

The weeping, wailing, and yelling by Jesus was not done in the context we're addressing. As a general rule, I think thse things can be done when appropriate.

Who is the Holy Spirit, but the Spirit of Jesus? Can He not do as He sees fit to do in us, His devoted children?

He sure can...I just don't see why He would deem it necessary to make 50+ people in a room scream alound in chaotic tongues when the Bible clearly says that there should be order in the congregating of the saints and that there shouldn't be more than two or three people speaking at once.

That is not what the scripture was talking about. People don't realize that there are 2 distinct tongues gifts: Ministry, which you are thinking about, requires more order and the minimum of three participating, and that gift requires an interpreter or one would have to keep quiet.

I am talking about prayer language, a gift of Grace. Most of us have a personal prayer language that we erupt into from time to time when we are all in corporate prayer. Appropriate, awesome and effective, especially when we are praying for something like someone's healing from a brain tumour, or a woman who has been discovered with thyroid cancer, or a child is born with a deadly heart defect--which we have done and all three have been miraculously healed. God's power is there and unleashed into the situation when the Holy Spirit is praying along with us! Amen!

I agree that there are times when we are moved to pray in tongues, and that there is a difference between that and when we are ministering in tongues to people...but Paul does not say "well, it's okay to get noisy and have fifty people yelling in tongues, so long as it's just a prayer tongue." No, it's:

"What then shall we say, brothers? When you come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an interpretation. All of these must be done for the strengthening of the church. If anyone speaks in a tongue, two

[Floatingaxe]

Paul does allow for prayer tongues, but he says the person should keep quiet and speak to himself and God when that happens in the church setting.

Well when you have 500-700 people praying together, you will get a bit noisy when we pray together! Actually it is a wonderful musical sound, and I am sure God is very pleased with that fragrance.

[Tzav_LaTzav]

Oh, now, you're scaring me, hr.jr.