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Greetings All,

Of necessity I present this because a member has said that Melkizedec is thought to be Jesus Christ, and that many commentators of the Bible think so. Of course, I disagree with this, for he was only a "type" and NOT Jesus Himself. Regrettably some of the Hebrew or Greek characters may not come through.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

Albert Barnes - Notes on the Bible (1798-1870)

Gen_14:18

And he blessed him. - Here it comes out clearly that Melkizedec acts not only in a civil but in a sacred capacity. He blesses Abram. In the form of benediction employed we have two parts: the former of which is strictly a blessing or asking of good things for the person in question. "Blessed be Abram." It is the part of the father to bless the child, of the patriarch or superior to bless the subject or inferior, and of the priest to bless the people Heb_7:7. Here, accordingly, Melkizedec assumes and Abram concedes to him the superiority. The Most High God is here further designated as the Founder of heaven and earth, the great Architect or Builder, and, therefore, Possessor of all things. There is here no indistinct allusion to the creation of "heaven and earth," mentioned in the opening of the Book of God. This is a manifest identification of the God of Melkizedec with the one Creator and Upholder of all things. We have here no mere local or national deity, with limited power and province, but the sole and supreme God of the universe and of man.

Gen_14:20

The second part of this benedictory prayer is a thanksgiving to the common God of Melkizedec and Abram for the victory which had been vouchsafed to the latter. "Thy foes." Here Abram is personally addressed. Melkizedec as a priest first appeals to God on behalf of Abram, and then addresses Abram on behalf of God. Thus, he performs the part of a mediator.

And he gave him a tithe of all. - This is a very significant act. In presenting the tenth of all the spoils of victory, Abram makes a practical acknowledgment of the absolute and exclusive supremacy of the God whom Melkizedec worshipped, and of the authority and validity of the priesthood which he exercised. We have here all the indications of a stated order of sacred rites, in which a costly service, with a fixed official, is maintained at the public expense, according to a definite rate of contribution. The gift in the present case is the tenth of the spoils of war. This act of Abram, though recorded last, may have taken place at the commencement of the interview. At all events, it renders it extremely probable that a sacrifice had been offered to God, through the intervention of Melkizedec, before he brought forth the bread and wine of the accepted feast.

It is obvious that here we stand on broader ground than the special promise made to Abram. Melkizedec was not a partner in the call of Abram, and yet the latter acknowledges him as a priest of the Most High God. Hence, we must fall back on the covenant made with Noah - the representative of the whole race after the deluge - as the broad basis of authority on which Melkizedec acted. That covenant, then, was not a dead letter. It still lived in the heart and will of a part of the nations. Its hallowing and exalting truths had produced at least one center of pure and spiritual worship on the earth. Even Abram, the called of God, acknowledges its constituted head. And the Most High God, Founder and Upholder of heaven and earth, thereby guarantees its validity for all who in every place call on his name in sincerity and truth. And his special call to Abram is given with a view to the final removal of all obstacles to the acceptance and application of this his everlasting covenant. We are thankful for this glimpse into the comprehensive grandeur of the divine purpose concerning man, which is for some time forward cast into the shade, until it begins to break forth again in the anticipations of the prophets, and at length shines forth with imperishable splendor in the revelations of the New Testament.

The genealogy of Melkizedec seems designedly veiled in impenetrable obscurity. To lift this veil entirely is therefore hopeless. Yet we may venture to hint the possibility that here we have another Shemite chieftain in the land of Kenaan. The indefinite statement of Josephus, that he was a potentate of the Kenaanites, is no proof to the contrary, even if it were of much value. The address of Ezekiel to Jerusalem: "Thy origin and thy birth are of the land of Kenaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother a Hittite" Eze_16:3, may refer to the period immediately before the entrance of Israel into the land. At and after that time the Amorite and the Jebusite seem to have been in possession of the city Jos_10:5; Jdg_1:21. But in the time of Abram, more than four hundred years before, it may have been different. We have discovered other tribes in this land that were not of the race of Kenaan. It is not likely that Kenaan would furnish a priest of the most high God. It is evident that Melkizedec was not in the confederacy of the Pentapolis with the king of Sodom. He comes out separately and suddenly to meet Abram, who was one of "the children of Heber," of whom Shem was the father.

And he is the acknowledged head of the worshippers of the most high God, who is "the Lord, the God of Shem." But be this as it may, it is only a secondary question here. The matter of primary importance, as has been already noted, is the existence of a community of pure worshippers of the true God in the land of Kenaan, antecedent to Abram. If this community be descendants of Kenaan, it only renders the discovery the more striking and impressive. The knowledge of the true God, the confession of the one everlasting supreme Creator of heaven and earth, the existence of a stated form of worship by means of a priest and a ritual attested by Abram the elect of God, in a community belonging to the Gentiles, form at once a remarkable vindication of the justice and mercy of God in having made known to all mankind the mode of acceptable approach to himself, and a singular evidence that such a revelation had been made to Noah, from whom alone it could have descended to the whole race, and consequently to this particular branch of it.

We have reason to believe that this was not the sole line in which this precious tradition was still preserved in comparative purity and power. Job and his companions belong to one other known line in which the knowledge of the one God was still vital. The fundamental principles of divine truth planted in the human breast by this and antecedent revelations were never afterward wholly eradicated; and from the hereditary germs of a primitive theology, cherished by contact with the Sidonians and other Phoenicians, were Homer, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and other sages of the East and West, enabled to rise to the exalted conceptions which they occasionally formed of the unity, purity, spirituality, and supremacy of the Divine Being. The idea of God, conveyed into a soul of any power and freedom, is wonderfully prolific. It bursts the bonds of the animal nature, and expands and elevates the rational to some shadowy semblance of its primeval glory. Where it has become altogether extinct, the human has sunk down under the debasing bondage of the brutal. During the four centuries that elapsed from the arrival of Abram to the conquest of the country by his descendants, this interesting relic of a pure Gentile worship seems to have disappeared. But the traces of such a purifying and elevating knowledge of God were not even then effaced from the memories, the customs, and the phrases of the people.

Gen_14:21-24

The king of Sodom concedes to Abram, according to custom, the spoils of conquest as his right, and claims for himself only his subjects who had been rescued from the foe. Abram however declines any personal advantage from the enterprise, or material recompense for his services. To this he was led partly by the present disposition of his mind, in which the spiritual prevailed over the carnal, and partly by the character of the one with whom he had to deal; since the Sodomites were notorious for their wickedness. On other occasions he accepted unmerited gifts Gen_12:16; Gen_20:14, Gen_20:16. On the present occasion, he, no doubt, felt himself amply rewarded by the recovery of his own kinsman, and the blessing of Melkizedec. Disinterestedness has had another victory in Abram. And, accordingly, the minister of God meets him on the field of a common humanity, and pronounces on him a blessing. The unselfish, unsectarian heart of the heir of special promise, bows in acknowledgment of the representative of the universal and anterior covenant of God with Noah.

Gen_14:22

I have lifted up my hand. - This is a serious matter with Abram. Either before, or then and there, he made an oath or solemn asseveration before God, with uplifted hand, that he would not touch the property of Sodom. He must have felt that there was danger of moral contamination in coming into any political relationship with the cities of the vale. "The Lord, the Most High God, the Founder of heaven and earth." In this conjunction of names Abram solemnly and expressly identifies the God of himself and of Melkizedec in the presence of the king of Sodom. The Most High God of Melkizedec is the God of the first chapter of Genesis, and the Yahweh of Adam, Noah, and Abram.

Gen_14:24

While Abram refrains from accepting any part of the spoils beyond what had been consumed in supplying the necessities of his followers in the expedition, he expressly excepts the portion to which his confederates, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre, became entitled by their share in the recovery of the property. This is sufficient to prove that the transaction regarding the spoil was not an offer of generosity on the part of the king of Sodom, but an act of disinterestedness on the part of Abram.

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Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible (1715-1832)

Gen 14:18 -

And Melchizedek, king of Salem - A thousand idle stories have been told about this man, and a thousand idle conjectures spent on the subject of his short history given here and in Heb. vii. At present it is only necessary to state that he appears to have been as real a personage as Bera, Birsha, or Shinab, though we have no more of his genealogy than we have of theirs.

Brought forth bread and wine - Certainly to refresh Abram and his men, exhausted with the late battle and fatigues of the journey; not in the way of sacrifice, etc.; this is an idle conjecture.

He was the priest of the most high God - He had preserved in his family and among his subjects the worship of the true God, and the primitive patriarchal institutions; by these the father of every family was both king and priest, so Melchizedek, being a worshipper of the true God, was priest among the people, as well as king over them.

Melchizedek is called here king of Salem, and the most judicious interpreters allow that by Salem, Jerusalem is meant. That it bore this name anciently is evident from Psa_76:1, Psa_76:2 : "In Judah is God known; his name is great in Israel. In Salem also is his tabernacle, and his dwelling place in Zion." From the use made of this part of the sacred history by David, Psa_110:4, and by St. Paul, Heb_7:1-10, we learn that there was something very mysterious, and at the same time typical, in the person, name, office, residence, and government of this Canaanitish prince. 1. In his person he was a representative and type of Christ; see the scriptures above referred to. 2. His name, malki tsedek, signifies my righteous king, or king of righteousness. This name he probably had from the pure and righteous administration of his government; and this is one of the characters of our blessed Lord, a character which can be applied to him only, as he alone is essentially righteous, and the only Potentate; but a holy man, such as Melchizedek, might bear this name as his type or representative. 3. Office; he was a priest of the most high God. The word cohen, which signifies both prince and priest, because the patriarchs sustained this double office, has both its root and proper signification in the Arabic; kahana signifies to approach, draw near, have intimate access to; and from hence to officiate as priest before God, and thus have intimate access to the Divine presence: and by means of the sacrifices which he offered he received counsel and information relative to what was yet to take place, and hence another acceptation of the word, to foretell, predict future events, unfold hidden things or mysteries; so the lips of the priests preserved knowledge, and they were often the interpreters of the will of God to the people. Thus we find that Melchizedek, being a priest of the most high God, represented Christ in his sacerdotal character, the word priest being understood as before explained. 4. His residence; he was king of Salem. shalam signifies to make whole, complete, or perfect; and hence it means peace, which implies the making whole the breaches made in the political and domestic union of kingdoms, states, families, etc., making an end of discord, and establishing friendship. Christ is called the Prince of peace, because, by his incarnation, sacrifice, and mediation, he procures and establishes peace between God and man; heals the breaches and dissensions between heaven and earth, reconciling both; and produces glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace and good will among men. His residence is peace and quietness and assurance for ever, in every believing upright heart. He governs as the Prince and Priest of the most high God, ruling in righteousness, mighty to save; and he ever lives to make intercession for, and save to the uttermost all who come unto the Father by him. See the notes on Hebrews 7 (note).

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Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible (1662-1714)

Gen 14:17-20 -

This paragraph begins with the mention of the respect which the king of Sodom paid to Abram at his return from the slaughter of the kings; but, before a particular account is given of this, the story of Melchizedek is briefly related, concerning whom observe,

I. Who he was. He was king of Salem and priest of the most high God; and other glorious things are said of him, Heb_7:1, etc. 1. The rabbin, and most of our rabbinical writers, conclude that Melchizedek was Shem the son of Noah, who was king and priest to those that descended from him, according to the patriarchal model. But this is not at all probable; for why should his name be changed? And how came he to settle in Canaan? 2. Many Christian writers have thought that this was an appearance of the Son of God himself, our Lord Jesus, known to Abram, at this time, by this name, as afterwards, Hagar called him by another name, Gen_16:13. He appeared to him as a righteous king, owning a righteous cause, and giving peace. It is difficult to imagine that any mere man should be said to be without father, without mother, and without descent, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, Heb_7:3. It is witnessed of Melchizedek that he liveth, and that he abideth a priest continually (Gen_14:3, Gen_14:8); nay (Gen_14:13, Gen_14:14), the apostle makes him of whom these things are spoken to be our Lord who sprang out of Judah. It is likewise difficult to think that any mere man should, at this time, be greater than Abram in the things of God, that Christ should be a priest after the order of any mere man, and that any human priesthood should so far excel that of Aaron as it is certain that Melchizedek's did. 3. The most commonly received opinion is that Melchizedek was a Canaanitish prince, that reigned in Salem, and kept up the true religion there; but, if so, why his name should occur here only in all the story of Abram, and why Abram should have altars of his own and not attend the altars of his neighbour Melchizedek who was greater than he, seem unaccountable. Mr. Gregory of Oxford tells us that the Arabic Catena, which he builds much upon the authority of, gives this account of Melchizedek, That he was the son of Heraclim, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, and that his mother's name was Salathiel, the daughter of Gomer, the son of Japheth, the son of Noah.

II. What he did. 1. He brought forth bread and wine, for the refreshment of Abram and his soldiers, and in congratulation of their victory. This he did as a king, teaching us to do good and to communicate, and to be given to hospitality, according to our ability; and representing the spiritual provisions of strength and comfort which Christ has laid up for us in the covenant of grace for our refreshment, when we are wearied with our spiritual conflicts. 2. As priest of the most high God, he blessed Abram, which we may suppose a greater refreshment to Abram than his bread and wine were. Thus God, having raised up his Son Jesus, has sent him to bless us, as one having authority; and those whom he blesses are blessed indeed. Christ went to heaven when he was blessing his disciples (Luk_24:51); for this is what he ever lives to do.

III. What he said, Gen_14:19, Gen_14:20. Two things were said by him: - 1. He blessed Abram from God: Blessed be Abram, blessed of the most high God, Gen_14:19. Observe the titles he here gives to God, which are very glorious. (1.) The most high God, which bespeaks his absolute perfections in himself and his sovereign dominion over all the creatures; he is King of kings. Note, It will greatly help both our faith and our reverence in prayer to eye God as the most high God, and to call him so. (2.) Possessor of heaven and earth, that is, rightful owner, and sovereign Lord, of all the creatures, because he made them. This bespeaks him a great God, and greatly to be praised (Psa_24:1), and those a happy people who have an interest in his favour and love. 2. He blessed God for Abram (Gen_14:20): and blessed be the most high God. Note, (1.) In all our prayers, we must praise God, and join hallelujahs with all our hosannahs. These are the spiritual sacrifices we must offer up daily, and upon particular occasions. (2.) God, as the most high God, must have the glory of all our victories, Exo_17:15; 1Sa_7:10, 1Sa_7:12; Jdg_5:1, Jdg_5:2; 2Ch_20:21. In them he shows himself higher than our enemies (Exo_18:11), and higher than we; for without him we could do nothing. (3.) We ought to give thanks for others' mercies as for our own, triumphing with those that triumph. (4.) Jesus Christ, our great high priest, is the Mediator both of our prayers and praises, and not only offers up ours, but his own for us. See Luk_10:21.

IV. What was done to him: Abram gave him tithes of all, that is, of the spoils, Heb_7:4. This may be looked upon, 1. As a gratuity presented to Melchizedek, by way of return for his tokens of respect. Note, Those that receive kindness should show kindness. Gratitude is one of nature's laws. 2. As an offering vowed and dedicated to the most high God, and therefore put into the hands of Melchizedek his priest. Note, (1.) When we have received some signal mercy from God, it is very fit that we should express our thankfulness by some special act of pious charity. God must always have his dues out of our substance, especially when, by any particular providence, he has either preserved or increased it to us. (2.) That the tenth of our increase is a very fit proportion to be set apart for the honour of God and the service of his sanctuary. (3.) That Jesus Christ, our great Melchizedek, is to have homage done him, and to be humbly acknowledged by every one of us as our king and priest; and not only the tithe of all, but all we have, must be surrendered and given up to him.

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Keil & Delitzsch Commentary on the Old Testament

Johann (C.F.) Keil (1807-1888) & Franz Delitzsch (1813-1890)

Gen 14:17-24 -

As Abram returned with the booty which he had taken from the enemy, the king of Sodom (of course, the successor to the one who fell in the battle) and Melchizedek, king of Salem, came to meet him to congratulate him on his victory; the former probably also with the intention of asking for the prisoners who had been rescued. They met him in "the valley of Shaveh, which is (what was afterwards called) the King's dale." This valley, in which Absalom erected a monument for himself (2Sa_18:18), was, according to Josephus, two stadia from Jerusalem, probably by the brook Kidron therefore, although Absalom's pillar, which tradition places there, was of the Grecian style rather than the early Hebrew. The name King's dale was given to it undoubtedly with reference to the event referred to here, which points to the neighbourhood of Jerusalem. For the Salem of Melchizedek cannot have been the Salem near to which John baptized (Joh_3:23), or Aenon, which was eight Roman miles south of Scythopolis, as a march of about forty hours for the purpose of meeting Abraham, if not romantic, would, at least be at variance with the text of Scripture, where the kings are said to have gone out to Abram after his return. It must be Jerusalem, therefore, which is called by the old name Salem in Psa_76:2, out of which the name Jerusalem (founding of peace, or possession of peace) was formed by the addition of the prefix ּ = 輄輄輄ּ輄 "founding," or 輄輄輄ּ輄ׁ "possession." Melchizedek brings bread and wine from Salem "to supply the exhausted warriors with food and drink, but more especially as a mark of gratitude to Abram, who had conquered for them peace, freedom, and prosperity" (Delitzsch). This gratitude he expresses, as a priest of the supreme God, in the words, "Blessed be Abram of the Most High God, the founder of heaven and earth; and blessed be God, the Most High, who hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand." The form of the blessing is poetical, two parallel members with words peculiar to poetry, for , and ּ. - without the article is a proper name for the supreme God, the God over all (cf. Exo_18:11), who is pointed out as the only true God by the additional clause, "founder of the heaven and the earth." On the construction of ּּ with , vid., Gen_31:15; Exo_12:16, and Ges.

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Ernie, I had read that Jewish tradition states that he was ,in fact, Shem.

I tried adding up all the numbers to do with the age of Abraham and his ancestors and figured that against the age Shem lived and Shem would have still been living when Abraham was in the land of Canaan.


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Greetings Ginakay,

Ernie, I had read that Jewish tradition states that he was ,in fact, Shem.

I tried adding up all the numbers to do with the age of Abraham and his ancestors and figured that against the age Shem lived and Shem would have still been living when Abraham was in the land of Canaan.

That is also at least one of the conclusions reached in the commentaries, but without any solid evidence to back it up, only conjecture, we will just have to wait to see when we get more information, but I am pleased you endeaver to check these things out.

Blessings,

Dad Ernie

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It's too bad there's so much confusion presented on the identity of Melchizedek, which means 'king of righteousness', or 'king of the just'. It could be because of how many of my Christian brethren are not that well studied in their Old Testament, as there are several Scriptures mentioning The KING Who will reign righteous judgments in God's Eternity.

Ps 72:1-4

1 Give the king Thy judgments, O God, and Thy righteousness unto the king's son.

2 He shall judge Thy people with righteousness, and Thy poor with judgment.

3 The mountains shall bring peace to the people, and the little hills, by righteousness.

4 He shall judge the poor of the people, He shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor.

(KJV)

Read further in that Ps.72 Chapter and one will easily discover It speaks of The Savior Yashua Messiah Jesus Christ as That King.

Jer 23:5-6

5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

6 In His days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is His name whereby He shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

(KJV)

The Saviour Yashua Messiah Jesus Christ when born flesh was from the genealogy of both Judah and Levi when He came to die on the cross for His first coming (Luke 3). Thus His Title of KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS per Rev.19:16. There is an abundance of Scripture that reveals The KING Who will rule in Righteousness.

So then, who really was Paul talking about in Hebrews 7?...

Heb 7:1-3

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

(KJV)

Let's see, "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life;", I wonder... what flesh man could that ever apply to? Don't you? "Jesus Christ the same yesterday, to day, and for ever" (Hebrews 13:8). It's meant in the spiritual everlasting sense as to Spirit, not flesh. And that only can apply to God, G_d, or Yahveh and His Son if you prefer.

That's the 'kicker' that the old Pharisee traditions can't deal with, because they were busy denying that Jesus of Nazareth was The Messiah right after His crucifixion (Matt.28:11-15). And since the Pharisees had made that lie that God didn't raise Jesus of Nazareth from the dead, then they certainly had to counter many other later New Testament references to Jesus of Nazareth being The Messiah and hence King of Righteousness also.

One of the main problems in some's understanding, is they cannot fathom how Jesus The Christ could have ever lived before His flesh birth by The Holy Spirit in Mary's womb:

1 Cor 10:2-4

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

(KJV)

Who do we think The "LORD" was That appeared to Abraham also...

Gen 18:1-4

1 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;

2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

3 And said, "My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:

4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:"

(KJV)

The other two of the "three men" that appeared suddenly to Abraham, were the two angels that would go to Sodom and Gomorrah and lead Lot and his family out. Thus our Lord Christ appeared to Abraham not in a flesh body, but in a Body like the other two angels. Does that give more weight also to who Melchizedek was that appeared to Abraham back 4 Chapters earlier? What did Paul say again about Melchisedec?...

Heb.7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

The MAJOR problem with thinking that Melchizedek was some mysterious flesh personality that appeared to Abraham, would mean there is another like God who existed without mother, without father, without descent, with neither beginning of days, nor end of life. There only is One "Son of God", The Saviour Yashua Messiah Jesus Christ. And only God is without beginning nor end of days, Yashua The Christ included. That also is why Jesus Christ is called The Alpha and Omega per Rev.22.

So what's the main point of why Melchizedek appeared to Abraham in Gen.14? Are we so blind that we cannot recognize that our Heavenly Father offered THE PROMISE BY FAITH to Abraham, long... before Israel was given The Law through Moses?

Gal 3:6-9

6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, "In thee shall all nations be blessed."

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.

(KJV)

The Promise by Faith was always... before The Law was given (around 430 years before). So what did this Melchizedek offer Abraham, as a foreshadow of that Promise of Salvation through God's Savior, by faith?...

Gen 14:18-19

18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth BREAD AND WINE: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, "Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:"

(KJV)

Aren't "bread and wine" the Sacraments of Holy Communion with The Savior? Clearly yes. This act by Melchizedek to Abraham was the sealing of the very first Holy Communion, and it occured through Abraham's act of 'faith', and IS The Promise by Faith which all believers are also sealed with, for as Paul said, "... they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." (Gal.3:7). Some Bible commentators can spiritualize away this fact all they want to, and it shouldn't mean much for those who likewise have the faith of Abraham, for those commentators have evidently not listened to what Paul clearly taught on this matter, and have strayed from The Scriptures.

So in essence, to think there is another who is Melchizedek, other than our Lord Yashua Messiah, is to delcare another Son of God, without beginning or end of days. Are there two Saviors then? No (Hosea 13:4). It's strongly clear that Hebrews 7:3 cannot apply to a flesh man like Shem. It applies to our Lord KING Yashua Messiah Jesus Christ, for He existed also before He was born into the flesh, and He now resides on the Right Hand of God, until all His enemies are made His footstool.

The Only Begotten Son Title means The Christ being born in the flesh for His Mission to die on the cross per the events of Ps.22. It does not mean that He was 'created' out of thin air without a prior spiritual existence, for Yashua is part of The Godhead, of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Do you think that "King of Salem" Title might refer to Christ's previous status as KING, before He came in the flesh to die on the cross to become our Perfect Passover Sacrifice? And now our Heavenly Father has provided us with The Prince of Salem, Who is to also become KING again (Rev.19:16).

In Christ,

Davey.


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Davey,

To be blunt, you're a flake.

I know what theophanies are. But it is apparent you do not know the scriptures, yet you make up "fables" as though you had some special insight. Melchizedek was ONLY a "type" of the future Christ. There is more said about Joseph with all kinds of similarities and he was also a "type". So was Isaac. Read John 1:

John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father) full of grace and truth.

John 1:15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.

Jesus was the 2ND Adam. He "descended" from the Father. He shall come again the 2ND time.

Please study to show yourself approved a workman unto God, rightly dividing the Word of truth.

Your Servant in Christ,

Dad Ernie

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DadErnie

Melchizedek was ONLY a "type" of the future Christ.

I read through the extensive commentary you provided and have come to the conclusion that you are correct. I will have to go and check, but I may have misunderstood what some of my other commentaries were trying to say. This is a very interesting study I must say.

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Just a little side note --

Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

This is the key word -- in the Greek -- aphomoioo which means to cause a model to pass off into an image or shape like it or a facsimile.

In the study of Melchidek, I believe there's a deeper understanding that is often missed. Remember that Messiah was created to take up the priesthood of Melchizedek.

First of all there was a change in the law!

Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Secondly there was a change in the priesthood! It went from levitical order of the priesthood to the priesthood of Melchizedek.

Watch this closely --

Luke 1:5

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Exceptional thread. I am going to have to spend some time on this. Thank you DE and George :o


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Wow! I had never thought of John the Baptist in that light. I never put that together, about the Aaronic priesthood being passed over to Jesus at that time of his baptism. What a wonderful insight.

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