Guest AV1611_USER Posted June 4, 2007 Share Posted June 4, 2007 From what I've seen, there are no people who don't believe in God but they have a beef with God and deny Himand some even hate Him. In short, I don't believe in atheists. I don't believe in atheists either. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. (Romans 1:21 KJV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nite_breed Posted June 4, 2007 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 4 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/04/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/15/1986 Share Posted June 4, 2007 well you could read the cosmological argument by st aquinas and that logically explains that god must exist as well as stephen hawking who said that with all he knows of the universe he thinks that god must exist, so for the logically minded these are a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AV1611_USER Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 well you could read the cosmological argument by st aquinas and that logically explains that god must exist as well as stephen hawking who said that with all he knows of the universe he thinks that god must exist, so for the logically minded these are a good start The problem is that sin has corrupted the minds of non-believers and their reasoning is corrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkNebulaWelder Posted June 5, 2007 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 98 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 580 Content Per Day: 0.09 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/18/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 5, 2007 well you could read the cosmological argument by st aquinas and that logically explains that god must exist as well as stephen hawking who said that with all he knows of the universe he thinks that god must exist, so for the logically minded these are a good start Stephen Hawking is a BRILLIANT man, so it only makes logical sense that he believes in God. I don't just THINK God exists, but I KNOW he does. Subjectively, I have felt His presence on a personal level. Objectively, everything in the Universe points to a divine Creator. There is just too much order for there NOT to be a God, and if one believes in chaos theory, even the LACK of order would point to a God....if there is a certain order in chaotic phenomenon, then there is no place in the Universe where there is no order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hupo Posted June 20, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,055 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 18 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/19/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/12/1944 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I will begin with a question: Is it POSSIBLE that there is no supernatural being? I'm not saying that is what you believe, I am asking if it is -possible- that you are incorrect? Who is asking? Are you open minded enough to realize you may not even exist? Do you agree that God either exists or not, regardless of what we have to say about it? And if so, will this discussion make any kind of dent in the truth (whatever it may be)? Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undone Posted June 20, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 45 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 819 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted June 20, 2007 Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Well, let's ask Him. Lord, is it possible that you don't exist? Oh...the answer is above me here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua-777 Posted June 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 410 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 3,102 Content Per Day: 0.48 Reputation: 522 Days Won: 6 Joined: 10/19/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/07/1984 Share Posted June 22, 2007 1corinthians 2:7-16 7No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senerhu Posted June 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 120 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,661 Content Per Day: 0.23 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/23/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted June 22, 2007 I will begin with a question: Is it POSSIBLE that there is no supernatural being? I'm not saying that is what you believe, I am asking if it is -possible- that you are incorrect? No, to me it is not possible. The prophesies of the Old Testiment were fulfilled by Christ. History and historians have been unable to debunk this. God exists... and I say rejoice in His prescence... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treasure Posted June 22, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 272 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,338 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted June 22, 2007 Don't be so open minded that your brain falls out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollkiller Posted June 27, 2007 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 1 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 249 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 8 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/07/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted June 27, 2007 well you could read the cosmological argument by st aquinas and that logically explains that god must exist as well as stephen hawking who said that with all he knows of the universe he thinks that god must exist, so for the logically minded these are a good start The problem is that sin has corrupted the minds of non-believers and their reasoning is corrupt. As a non-believer in the terms of man-made religion(not in the idea of a creator, anything is possible) i have to take offence that you can generalise all the athiests and non-believers as corrupt. My reasoning is not corrupt, it relies on looking at situations and coming to a reasonable choice. Also, everybody sins according to your definition of sin so does it not corrupt believers as well. I have sinned many times but through these sins and on reflection they have made me a better person. Have a nice day and leave out the wide generalisations if you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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