RedeemedByHim Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 63 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,157 Content Per Day: 0.18 Reputation: 9 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/24/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/25/1982 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I am so confused...what does New Jersey have to do with it??? oh well....I am not Catholic, so it doesn't affect me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovedya Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 375 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 11,400 Content Per Day: 1.44 Reputation: 125 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/30/2002 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1971 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem! The Catholic church has abolished the term"Limbo" It was believed that infants and people who were not baptisted and died went into Limbo. The Pope gave his bleesing to do away with this word. Liz Then where do they go? New Jersey. Which exit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apothanein kerdos Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 331 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 8,713 Content Per Day: 1.21 Reputation: 21 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2004 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Wait a sec. Maybe New Jersey is actually Purgatory. Amazingly enough, Michigan is Purgatory - not that great of a place...but not that bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthitjah Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 1,285 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 17,917 Content Per Day: 2.27 Reputation: 355 Days Won: 19 Joined: 10/01/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Which exit? The one for Compton, it's right outside of Cherry Hill. I actually spent a week there once. Then I got baptized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well, well, well! The infallible Pope has finally seen the light and officially abolished Limbo. Read the full report here: http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/stor...5001028,00.html Pope abolishes limbo April 21, 2007 12:00 Article from: Agence France-Presse. THE Vatican has determined that limbo does not exist, opening the gates of heaven to babies who die unbaptised, a member of a high-level theological commission. Infants go to Heaven if they happen to die before reaching the age of reason. Infants are not lost due to the fact that they are not old enough to be held responsible for their sins and therefore could not repent of known sins. Also, they cannot be candidates for water baptism which is a symbol of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and a testimony to the world that the individual has been saved from a life of sin and that he is walking in newness of life. Only personal disciples and followers of Jesus Christ are commanded to REPENT and be BAPTIZED (Matt. 28:19-20; Mark 16:15-16; Acts 2:38-39). What sane adult could believe that a tiny infant who has not even reached the age of reason could deliberately commit sin? and how, how could an infant that cannot even speak, repent of sin if it were possible they did sin? Haz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arash_the_archer Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 47 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 313 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well this might be irrelevant to most people here. But according to the 3 wise mens "prophet", that was the first religion to mention "paradise", and "hell", limbo was where you didnt suffer or thriwe, it was the place of good unbelivers. And to add, catholics have their own system. Priests can "excommunicate", stopping people from going to heaven, and the pope decides things like mother mary going up in smoke when she died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatingaxe Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 9,613 Content Per Day: 1.45 Reputation: 656 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/11/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/31/1952 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well this might be irrelevant to most people here. But according to the 3 wise mens "prophet", that was the first religion to mention "paradise", and "hell", limbo was where you didnt suffer or thriwe, it was the place of good unbelivers. And to add, catholics have their own system. Priests can "excommunicate", stopping people from going to heaven, and the pope decides things like mother mary going up in smoke when she died. Wow, how diverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem! The Catholic church has abolished the term"Limbo" It was believed that infants and people who were not baptisted and died went into Limbo. The Pope gave his bleesing to do away with this word. Liz Then where do they go? New Jersey. Oh.....you are......so bad!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.10 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 OK what about pergatory and praying the dead into heaven??? That always kinda of goosed my fish.... Praying the dead into Heaven is a Mormon belief from what I've read. Don't remember what purgatory is but it seems that someone told me it was between Heaven and hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAZARD Posted April 21, 2007 Group: Royal Member Followers: 11 Topic Count: 320 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 6,830 Content Per Day: 0.84 Reputation: 3,570 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2007 Well this might be irrelevant to most people here. But according to the 3 wise mens "prophet", that was the first religion to mention "paradise", and "hell", limbo was where you didnt suffer or thriwe, it was the place of good unbelivers. And to add, catholics have their own system. Priests can "excommunicate", stopping people from going to heaven, and the pope decides things like mother mary going up in smoke when she died. Priests can do anything they like as far as I am conserned all to no avail. It is Jesus Christ who is the Judge and who decides who gets to Heaven and who goes to hell, not men, not the Pope, not Budda, nor any other religious leader. The word Limbo is not mentioned once in the entire Bible. Paradise is where those people who died in the Faith, and those such as Abraham, the prophets, Lazarus, etc., before Jesus Christ came and liberated them. He led these captives to Heaven when He returned to the Father after he Himself was risen. This is what God's Word says about Hell, and there is absolutly no mention in all the Scriptures of a place called Purgatory? There are five departments in the underworld of departed Spirits. Not one of these places is associated with or is the grave where bodies are buried, and not one place is called Purgatory or Limbo. One). Paradise; In Luke 16:19-31; 23:43, we have pictured total comfort and water in this prison because the rich man saw Lazarus afar off in comfort and bliss and asked him to dip his finger in water and cool his tongue (Luke 16:19-31). This was the abode of the righteous souls from Adam after dying and leaving their bodies, being held captive by the devil against their wills till Christ's death and resurrection (Heb. 2:14-15; Eph. 4:7-11). Before Jesus Christ conqured the power of death and Hell, the devil had these powers. (Col. 2:14-17; Heb. 2:14-15; Rev. 1:18). It was into this prison the repentant thief went with Christ the day they both died (Luke 23:43). This prison is located in the heart of the Earth as is clear from Matt. 12:40 and Eph. 4:7-11. Jesus not only went into this prison but He also went into another prison, "Tartarus," and preached to the fallen angels being held there in their own special prison. Jesus having conqured Hell and death and the grave during His crucifiction and during the three days He was in the underworld, He captured all the righteous souls that were in Paradise and took them to Heaven when He ascended on high (Eph. 4:7-11). Jesus now has the keys to Hell and death (Rev. 1:18). Two). Tartarus; This prison is the special prison for the fallen angels that sinned both before and after the flood. There is nothing recorded in Scripture that teaches demons or human beings ever go into this prison. In these passages it is clear that there is a real Hell that is not the grave and that Spirit beings are confined in chains until judgment (1 Pet. 3:19; 2 Pet. 2:4; Jude 6-7). Three). Hell itself; (Matt. 16:18; Luke 16:19-31). This is the torment part in the unseen world and was, still is, and will yet be the abode of all the wicked souls and spirits of men from Able to the end of the Millennium. Then, at this time all the wicked will be liberated out of this prison and will be given their own immortal bodies and be judged before being cast into the "lake of fire" forever (Rev. 20:11-15; 21:8). Four). The Bottomless Pit or Abyss is the abode or prison of demons and certain angelic beings. No human being is ever thrown into the abyss. It is a very deep chasm in the lower parts of the Earth. It is translated "deep" (Luke 8:26-31; Romans 10:7) and "Bottomless Pit" in Rev. 9:1-3, 11; 11:7; 17:8; 20:1-10). All these Scriptures prove that there are prisons in the lower parts of the Earth for departed sinning spirits, and they are not and could never be the same as a grave on the surface of the Earth. And Five). The Lake of Fire, is the eternal Hell and perdition of wicked men, demons, fallen angels, and all rebellious creatures of all ages who have ever rebelled against God, and who have refused to repent when they could have. It is called "The Gehenna of Fire" and is always translated Hell (Matt. 5:22, 29, 30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15, 33; Mark 9:43-45, 47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6). This prison is also called "the second death, which is the lake of fire" (Rev. 2:11; 20:6, 14). This final Hell was prepared for the devil and all his angels (Matt. 25:41-46), and for all other rebells, and it is ETERNAL in duration (Rev. 14:9-14; 20:10-15; Isa. 66:22-24; Matt. 25:46). There is no record in Scripture of anyone being the lake of fire at present. Scripture does show that the beast and the false prophet will be the first to be cast into it. This will happen before the Millennium (Rev. 19:20). They will still be there 1,000 years later when the devil and all other rebells will be cast into it (Rev. 20:10-15). Scripture also teaches us that there will be degrees of punishment in Hell as far as remorse and torment of the conscience is concerned (Matt. 10:15; 11:22; 12:41; 23:14; Mark 6:11; 12:40; Luke 10:14; 11:31, 32; 20:47). These degrees of punishment will be because of the kind of sins comitted by one that were not comitted by another. No man will be punished or could have remorse over something he did not do. They will all regret rebelling against God and man and failing to believe in Jesus, and repenting of sin. All the pet theories of men, the traditions of churches, and the ideas and teachings of false teachers and preachers can never change the Word of God. And finally, there are no dead people in Heaven, not one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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